From: Stephen Skinner (stephen_ski@hotmail.com)
Date: Mon Mar 15 2004 - 14:49:42 GMT-3
Nick ,
my friend take heart....
it`s funny ...i am going to brussells on may 7 (R/S) ....and i fully expect
to fail....
infact i know i will ...
BUT that`s the whole point ...if the exam was easy....and you got it first
time (WITHOUT REALLY TRYING no offense !!! ) ..you would just do what you do
with all the other cert you have...
in the filing cabinet ...
i have passed a few certs in my time.....but the only certificate that is
going on my WALL or will be displayed at work will be my CCIE ...weather i
get it on the 1st second or third attempt ...it makes no odd`s ....it` going
on the wall ...
take stock...spend some time with the kiddies...and try again....
After all of this ,you`ll have something to tell the grandchildren !!! hey
Cheers
>From: "Nick Guy" <nickguy@semaphore.com>
>Reply-To: "Nick Guy" <nickguy@semaphore.com>
>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: Failed again.
>Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2004 09:53:47 -0800
>
>Hello,
>I want to start by throwing out the caveat that I just failed my 5th
>attempt at the lab. Just saying that makes me feel like a complete
>idiot but it is time to start facing the fact that I am not able to nail
>this exam easily. In my own defense I have to prepare for the lab on
>top of being a Dad and husband and running a network department for a
>small, sometimes struggling company. The caveat is there because I am
>fully aware of the fact that I could be accused of being
>a little bitter. I am in the state of shock one has after failing a lab
>and still deciding if I care enough to try it again.
> One thing I would strongly recommend against is spacing out attempts
>too far. Anyway it has not worked for me.
>
>Here are some of my opinions/beefs, for what they are worth good, bad
>and ugly
>
>
>The good,
>
>It is fair to say that the effort put into my CCIE prep has widened my
>knowledge to arenas that I do not encounter very
>often in a Network Engineering/Manager job. In some circumstances that
>additional knowledge has been useful for customers.
>
>
>The proctors are awesome.
>
>If I ever move to Mexico my knowledge of ISDN will be helpful... :-)
>(sorry, could not resist)
>
>
>
>
>The bad,
>
>For $1250 air fare and prep costs I deserve more than the less than
>thorough feedback I got. 15 minutes on the phone
>with a proctor would be invaluable.
>
>I think, and it is difficult to discuss this without violating NDA, it
>is wrong to develop testing to trip people up on
>obscure gotchas. It is lazy. Also, if Cisco is concerned about the
>Microsoftization of the credential this is the kind
>of stuff that will generate paper CCIE's
>
>On a similar note, while I can buy into the notion that to some degree
>creating networks that would never exist in the real
>world might be a reasonable measure of a candidate's handle on minutiae
>I fail to see how this prepares one for running and
>or designing networks. I reminds me of taking a British driving test
>after driving in the States for a while. I had to
>learn to drive like an amateur.
>
>
>The ugly:
>
>I am beginning to feel ripped off.
>
>When I pass the test I will ban myself from configuring GSR's. and
>confine myself to making little lans and data link
>switching people's netbios.
>
>As a group I think it is important to us all to view and value the test
>as an good measure of the kind of skills necessary
>to configure Cisco's equipment for our customers. It is I feel
>important though that as customers of what I am sure is
>one of Cisco's higher margin departments, that we apply our critical
>thinking skills to giving Cisco feedback about our
>experiences. I have done this using the feedback form already but for
>any of you that have used it, it feels about as
>interactive as the Internet over cable.
>
>
>It is my hope that I will lick my wounds and develop another strategy.
>Wanted to post this while I am still pissed off.
>
>Anyway that is my .02 please do not flame me too much.
>
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