From: Jonathan Hays (nomad@gfoyle.org)
Date: Fri Feb 27 2004 - 00:52:11 GMT-3
you wrote:
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
>Behalf Of Yasser Aly
>Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 9:01 PM
>To: sshafi@qualcomm.com; george_bethel@yahoo.com;
>ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: CCIE # Association
>
>
>Any exam in the world should have a limit number of trials.
>
= = =
Why exactly? Doesn't it depend?
If you are going make an assertion for an absolute standard for ALL
exams, you would do well to provide some detailed justification for it.
Maybe I'm ignorant, but what other *comparable* test in the I.T. field
do you know about that has a limited number of trials?
Please, let's not start comparing CCIE with Master's, Ph.D, etc. Even
the USMLE (United States Medical Licensing Exam) does not have a clear
cut number of limited attempts. See
http://www.usmle.org/news/faqusmle.htm#Is - the number of attempts
depends on the state you take the exam in!
The reality is that obtaining the CCIE rarely allows for full-time
dedication, like medical students. The majority of CCIE candidates have
careers and families and other obligations to juggle while studying for
the CCIE. Sometimes your company is not supporting your CCIE effort, you
have paid for an exam, the 28-day drop date rolls past and the company
promptly sends you out of town for 3 weeks. And so forth.
Many folks who have taken an unpalatable but required college course
have had the experience of cramming for an exam, passing with high
marks, and forgetting the material within days or a few weeks.
Everything else being equal (if such a thing is possible), I would
rather hire the CCIE who passed after 6 tries. Why? Because I think that
person is more likely to have a long-lasting, in-depth knowledge of the
material. That person is more likely to have a large share of bulldog
persistence and tenacity than most people. I think that persistence is
probably a better characteristic to learn than mere cleverness.
So those of you who have not yet passed the CCIE lab exam after your
third try - ignore this guy's uninformed opinion and keep plugging away.
-Jonathan
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