From: Karim (karim_ccie@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Feb 26 2004 - 22:34:22 GMT-3
Brian,
Thanks for your explanation and time. But does this mean that I still
multiply 512K by 0.75 to get the avaiable bandwidth ?
Also does your comment means that the equation Snyder posted is right ?
Frame-Relay Available bandwidth = Minicir -RTP - LLQ - RSVP
Take into consideration that the 0.75 wasn't stated in the previous
equation.
Regards,
Karim.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
To: "'Karim'" <karim_ccie@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 3:05 AM
Subject: RE: MQC for bandwidth reservation (max-reserved-bandwidth 100)
> Karim,
>
> Assuming you mean a Frame Relay PVC, it depends if you are applying
> the service-policy through Frame Relay Traffic Shaping. If you are
applying
> the service-policy to the interface itself, you should set the "bandwidth"
> of the interface to 512. If you are running FRTS you should set the
mincir
> to 512000. When running FRTS the interface bandwidth value does not apply
> to the MQC.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
> bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
>
> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karim [mailto:karim_ccie@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:46 PM
> > To: Brian McGahan; 'Packet Man'; deivi78@hotmail.com; antonio.sanchez-
> > monge@hp.com; msnyder@revolutioncomputer.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Cc: alsontra@hotmail.com
> > Subject: Re: MQC for bandwidth reservation (max-reserved-bandwidth 100)
> >
> > Hi Brian,
> >
> > Suppose that we have the following:
> > - A customer pvc of 512K.
> > - Port speed (interface bandwidth) of 2M.
> > - And 64K is reserved for RTP.
> > - 64K for LLQ.
> >
> > What will be the bandwidth value to be configured using the interface "
> > bandwidth" command ??
> > Would it be bandwidth 512, or bandwidth 512* 0.75, or something else
> > (confused how RTP value will be involved).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Karim.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com>
> > To: "'Packet Man'" <ccie2b@hotmail.com>; <deivi78@hotmail.com>;
> > <antonio.sanchez-monge@hp.com>; <msnyder@revolutioncomputer.com>;
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Cc: <alsontra@hotmail.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 1:14 AM
> > Subject: RE: MQC for bandwidth reservation (max-reserved-bandwidth 100)
> >
> >
> > > The interface "bandwidth" command is what the available bandwidth
> > > value is based off of.
> > >
> > > Available bandwidth = (interface_bandwidth *
max-reserved-bandwidth/100)
> > -
> > > RTP - LLQ - RSVP
> > >
> > > The reason you would need to specify the bandwidth value is when the
> > > provisioned rate of the interface does not match the interface
bandwidth
> > > command. For example, suppose you have a 1Mbps circuit you are
leasing
> > that
> > > is dropped off as FastEthernet. Although the interface bandwidth is
> > > 100Mbps, it would not make sense to calculate a QoS policy on 100Mbps,
> > as
> > > the upstream provider is policing at 1Mbps. Therefore the "bandwidth"
> > value
> > > should be adjusted to 1Mbps.
> > >
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Brian McGahan, CCIE #8593
> > > bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Packet Man [mailto:ccie2b@hotmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 2:31 PM
> > > > To: deivi78@hotmail.com; bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com;
> > antonio.sanchez-
> > > > monge@hp.com; msnyder@revolutioncomputer.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > Cc: alsontra@hotmail.com
> > > > Subject: RE: MQC for bandwidth reservation (max-reserved-bandwidth
> > 100)
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I'm not positive about this but my guess and what I've heard is that
> > the
> > > > bandwidth interface command's function is to let the routing
protocol
> > how
> > > > much bandwidth is avaiable on a link which in turn some portocols
use
> > to
> > > > compute cost or metric (OSPF or Eigrp).
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what bandwidth QoS uses or where it gets the bandwidth
> > amount
> > > > when it needs to compute a percentage. But, I do know that with
some
> > QoS
> > > > features, various parameters should be based on the actual bandwidth
> > > > rather
> > > > than the policed or shaped bandwidth. I don't remember all the
> > details,
> > > > but
> > > > I came across this info in the DQoS book.
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "David Hurtado" <deivi78@hotmail.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: "David Hurtado" <deivi78@hotmail.com>
> > > > >To: bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com, antonio.sanchez-monge@hp.com,
> > > > >msnyder@revolutioncomputer.com, ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > >CC: alsontra@hotmail.com
> > > > >Subject: RE: MQC for bandwidth reservation (max-reserved-bandwidth
> > 100)
> > > > >Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 19:52:55 +0000
> > > > >
> > > > >Hello everybody,
> > > > >
> > > > >I stiil don't know why to use the "bandwidth" command in interface
> > mode
> > > > >when configuring CBWFQ if you are respecting the
> > > > >maximum-reserve-bandwidth limitation:
> > > > >
> > > > > For example:
> > > > >
> > > > >class-map match-all ICMP
> > > > >match access-group 101
> > > > >
> > > > > policy-map ICMP_BW
> > > > >class ICMP
> > > > >bandwidth 128
> > > > >
> > > > > interface fa1/0/0
> > > > >bandwidth 1500 <-----------------------------When does this need
to
> > > > > be
> > > > > specified?
> > > > >service-policy output ICMP_BW
> > > > >
> > > > >128 kbps is not over 75% of the FastEternet BW. Why do i have to
> > > > >configure "bandwidth 1500"?
> > > > >
> > > > >Could somebody explain it to me, please?
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks a lot
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Brian McGahan" >Reply-To: "Brian McGahan" >To:
> > > > >"'SANCHEZ-MONGE,ANTONIO (HP-France,ex2)'" , "'Michael Snyder'"
,
> > > > > >CC: >Subject: RE: MQC for bandwidth reservation
> > (max-reserved-bandwidth
> > > > >100) >Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 14:24:08 -0600 > > As long as you take
> > this
> > > > >network traffic into account you are fine. >For example, on a GigE
> > link,
> > > > >it's a little ridiculous to say that 250Mbps of >traffic will be
> > network
> > > > >traffic. If you configure a class (i.e. not >class-default) which
> > > > >matches your routing traffic and network traffic and >reserve the
> > > > >appropriate bandwidth for it you are fine. > > Depending on the
> > platform
> > > > >the router may employ it's own queueing >strategy for essential
> > network
> > > > >control traffic. For more info see this cco >doc: >
> > > > > >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/rtgupdates.html > > >HTH, >
> > >Brian
> > > > >McGahan, CCIE #8593 >bmcgahan@internetworkexpert.com >
>Internetwork
> > > > >Expert, Inc. >http://www.InternetworkExpert.com >Toll Free:
> > 877-224-8987
> > > > >x 705 >Outside US: 775-826-4344 x 705 > > > > -----Original
> > Message-----
> > > > > > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On
> > Behalf
> > > > >Of > > SANCHEZ-MONGE,ANTONIO (HP-France,ex2) > > Sent: Wednesday,
> > > > >February 25, 2004 10:07 AM > > To: 'Michael Snyder';
> > > > >ccielab@groupstudy.com > > Cc: alsontra@hotmail.com > > Subject:
RE:
> > MQC
> > > > >for bandwidth reservation (max-reserved-bandwidth 100) > > > > Hi
> > > > >Michael, > > > > -> Won't max-reserved-bandwidth 100 be a good
> > default
> > > > >command to use with > > MQC interfaces? > > > > Reserving 100% of
the
> > > > >total bandwidth may starve the router generated > > traffic and
break
> > > > >routing protocols and other essential management > > traffic. > >
> > That's
> > > > >why it is 75% by default and not 100%. > > > > Cheers, > > Ato. > >
>
> > >
> > > > >-----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Snyder
> > > > >[mailto:msnyder@revolutioncomputer.com] > > Sent: miircoles, 25 de
> > > > >febrero de 2004 16:52 > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com > > Cc:
> > > > >alsontra@hotmail.com > > Subject: RE: MQC for bandwidth reservation
> > > > >(max-reserved-bandwidth 100) > > > > > > Well, if you are using
more
> > that
> > > > >75% of the bandwidth value (per the show > > int cmd) then you need
> > to
> > up
> > > > >the upper limit. > > > > R8(config-if)#max-reserved-bandwidth 100 >
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > >Which brings up a question, > > > > Won't max-reserved-bandwidth
100
> > be
> > a
> > > > >good default command to use with MQC > > interfaces? > > > > > > >
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: alsontra@hotmail.com
> > > > >[mailto:alsontra@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25,
2004
> > > > >11:08 AM > > To: SANCHEZ-MONGE,ANTONIO (HP-France,ex2);
> > > > >ccielab@groupstudy.com > > Subject: Re: MQC for bandwidth
reservation
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > > Thank you Ato. > > > > My question was more in regards of
> > whether
> > or
> > > > >not you have to specify the > > command when reserving bandwidth.
> > I've
> > > > >seen MQC configurations with and > > without the interface level
> > > > >bandwidth command. I think your saying that I > > only need to
> > specify
> > > > >bandwidth if the reference bandwidth is different > > than > > the
> > > > >interface bandwidth. > > > > > > Thanks > > Alsontra > > > > > > >
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > From: "SANCHEZ-MONGE,ANTONIO
> > > > >(HP-France,ex2)" > > monge@hp.com> > > To: ; > > Sent: Wednesday,
> > > > >February 25, 2004 2:29 AM > > Subject: RE: MQC for bandwidth
> > reservation
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Alsontra, > > > > Both bandwidth commands have very
> > > > >different meanings. > > > > Under the interface, it means the total
> > > > >reference bandwidth. Used for QoS > > but also for routing
protocols,
> > > > >etc... Normally you need to change it in > > serial interfaces
where
> > the
> > > > >real bandwidth is different from T1, etc... > > > > Under the class
> > in
> > a
> > > > >policy map, it is the bandwidth you want to reserve > > for > > a
> > > > >particular class. The total reserved bandwidth cannot exceed by
> > default
> > >
> > > > > > 75% of the reference bandwidth. > > > > Cheers, > > Ato. > > > >
> > > > >-----Original Message----- > > From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> > > > >[mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of > >
alsontra@hotmail.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > >Sent: miircoles, 25 de febrero de 2004 11:01 > > To:
> > > > >ccielab@groupstudy.com > > Subject: MQC for bandwidth reservation >
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > > When is the interface level bandwidth command used or needed
> > with
> > > > >MQC? > > > > For example: > > > > class-map match-all ICMP > >
> > match
> > > > >access-group 101 > > > > policy-map ICMP_BW > > class ICMP > >
> > > > >bandwidth 128 > > > > interface fa1/0/0 >
> > > > > > bandwidth 1500 <-----------------------------When does this
> > need
> > > > >to > > be > > specified? > > service-policy output ICMP_BW > >
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > > > > > If I don't specify this, what value dose the interface
policy
> > use?
> > > > >The > > interface bandwidth rate? And if so why would I want to
> > change
> > > > >it? > > > > > > Alsontra > > > >
> > > >
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