From: asadovnikov (asadovnikov@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Jan 14 2004 - 22:11:22 GMT-3
This is exactly what I was trying to say. Sorry for not putting a picture
in.
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
1cmpecho
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 8:09 PM
To: Andrew Moriarty; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: OT:Fault tolerant CEO's home network setup.
you _could_ push the vpn device back inside a little and have it forwarding
to the 2 internet devices
/cablemodem
pc's -----vpn device----tunnel--------------------------------------vpn
headend
\dsl
if the tunnel is established behind the isp's - then it could maintain the
session theoretically :)
At 07:41 PM 1/13/2004 -0500, Todd Veillette wrote:
>Linksys also has one that just came out that does stateful, dhcp, 8
>port 10/100, etc, etc, and supports 50 IPSEC tunnels.
>
>-TV
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ertai Wizard" <ertai_wizard@hotmail.com>
>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 6:47 PM
>Subject: FW: OT:Fault tolerant CEO's home network setup.
>
>
> > Try
> >
> > Hawking FR24 Dual WAN Broadband Router - US $65.00 retail
> > Xincom Twin WAN Router (XC-DPG402) - US $200.00 retail
> > Symantec Firewall/VPN200 (a.k.a. Nexland pro800Turbo) - US
> > $900.00 retail
> > etc...
> >
> > In these routers, they provide NAT (or Stateful inspection in
> > Symantec
>kit),
> > DHCP Client IP addressing, Static Addressing, and DHCP server
>functionality.
> >
> > They provide fault tolerance; and to a limited degree, load
> > balancing
>across
> > both WAN connections.
> >
> > Anyway, ask the customer does he watch the Red Green show? Does he
> > need duct tape? Eh? I hear you can duct tape two DSL/Cable modem
> > routers and create a new fangled contraption that might work.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Andrew Moriarty" <amgroupstudy@hotmail.com>
> > >Reply-To: "Andrew Moriarty" <amgroupstudy@hotmail.com>
> > >To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > >Subject: OT:Fault tolerant CEO's home network setup.
> > >Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 00:53:20 -0500
> > >
> > >Ever have the feeling that you are missing something incredibly
> > >basic
>that
> > >will make you look stupid later? I do right now, and I hope someone
> > >can help.
> > >
> > >The scenario: The customers CEO often works from home. He accesess
>company
> > >servers in california, and he lives in Canada. Because of where he
>lives,
> > >all he can get at his house is a relatively basic DSL from one
> > >provider, and a basic cable modem setup from another. Both of these
> > >are "Home user" type setups, with addresess assigned by DHCP. The
> > >DSL provider is frequently down for a day or more. Problem is,
> > >thats the high speed connection! The cable in this area is much
> > >slower, and not much more reliable. (Don't ask me to explain why
> > >this so- it just is!- and before anyone makes any canada jokes, yes
> > >he can get a canoe at the local supermarket, all the TV netoworks
> > >carry hockey, and yes, there are wild
>elk
> > >running around in the parking lot)
> > >
> > >The CEO has a relatively robust home network- a unix based
> > >firewall, and
>a
> > >half dozen computers behind it.
> > >
> > >His goal is to have seemless fail-over, for as cheap as possilbe.
> > >He
>wants
> > >to be connected in to a contact management system all day long, and
> > >not worry about which ISP is up or down. In other words, he might
> > >buy a
>router
> > >or two, but he won't upgrade his personal "Home" service to a
> > >business class service. (its not available in that area anyways)
> > >
> > >Each ISP provides him with a public IP address. Right now he only
> > >uses
>one
> > >of them, and uses NAT on his unix firewall to provide internet
> > >access for his six machines. He wants to add the second ISP to the
> > >configuration, to povide fault tolerance.
> > >
> > >I've suggested buying a router and connecting it to both ISP's, and
> > >using one interface as the primary and one as the backup, with
> > >static routes
>and
> > >NAT.Cheap, simple solution. Problem is, if one ISP fails, there
> > >goes his public address that the NAT is using, and he'll have to
> > >log out of his contact managment software, and restart his session,
> > >potentially loosing data. He does NOT want to do that. Its no good
> > >flipping over to the
>second
> > >ISP/NAT connection, because then his public address will change,
> > >and his session will be invalid and have to start again.
> > >
> > >He doesn't have any public ip addresses inside his house, can't get
> > >any either with the services on offer in that area. He's not going
> > >to do anything complex like run BGP etc. The ISP's won't let him
> > >anyways.
> > >
> > >I'm not sure I can solve his problem, but I've got a tickle in the
> > >back
>of
> > >my mind about something, thinkingI saw this somewhere before. I
> > >even got out my Halabi and Doyle books and re-read some stuff.
> > >
> > >Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do here? Or even
> > >something to research.....
> > >
> > >am
> > >
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