From: Chris Larson (clarson52@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Dec 10 2003 - 02:03:15 GMT-3
If you are going to post your number and the fact that you are a CCIE, could
you possibly just type your CCIE # like it is supposed to be ? It is against
Cisco policy to do what you have done to it. I would almost never give a
crap about these kinds of petty things, but I like to identify fellow
colleagues and CCIE's without having to do any binary crap or guessing or
trying to figure out what the hell you did to it. It also allows people to
verify that you are a CCIE if they so choose.
If you are good at what you do then who cares. It will show. Cheaters and
"paper" CCIE' s (whatever that means) will likely be easy to spot because of
their lack of experience. Those people will probably not get any good paying
senior engineer position at any reputable company and if they do they will
likely be quickly found out. If they are not found out then they are
probably either good or the company they work for sucks and will have a
reputation for having poor engineers. Simply having the number I don't
think does a whole lot except float your resume to the top of the pile and
maybe get your foot in the door. After that you will have to sell yourself
and your experience.
If you want to help keep the integrity of the cert then why don't you report
these companies and friends you know that are publishing the materials and
let Cisco deal with it. That is really all you can do. That and continue to
get certified, publish and author materials and market yourself for your
abilities, experiences AND your certifications. Your abilities and
experience are much more important to employers looking for good engineers
then the number IMHO.
----- Original Message -----
From: "fadnan habib" <adnan_habib87@hotmail.com>
To: <CCIELAB@groupstudy.com>
Cc: <ADNAN_HABIB87@hotmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: CCIE FOR SALE !!!1
> Dear all
>
> I am sorry but today I am going to explain some of the importance of ccie
> in daily life ,,, infect it was my dream to have a ccie from childhood
> and at the end of my young age I achieved !! wow !!at least now no more
> wish to go here are some important point that can help full for people
> that planning to take this exam in next 20 years by the way who know
> cisco will be there or it will become disco
>
>
>
> 1.if some one is planning to take the exam there are so many sites are
> offering on very cheap rates the original LABSs which u can pass on first
> attempt no pain no worries basis simple solution is to go to google
> .com and in search just type original labs for ccie and u will find at
> least 10000 companies offering this service J one site I know is suresh
> home page
>
> 2.if this will not work second simple solution is there are so many site
> I mean lab centers are offering this service I know three of them and my
> friend they passed from them send me off line email I will give u the
> complete guide for this
>
> 3.cisco speed of changing the LABSs is very slow just grap one old ccie
> person asked him about LABS and by YOUR luck u will get the same LAB..
>
> I dont know y cisco is doing like Microsoft that they dont care about
> this cases !!!even they are happy for growing population of ccie more
> ccie more product in the market ,,, if some people are not agree with me
> can they answer y people are going for dual or thrice ccie I had seen
> five ccie cleared also may be he will be the owner of cisco, for this
> there are two reason one is they want to be unique other is they have
> recourses in centers or to web sites.J in past when there was no that
> such a way ccie in single subject was more good then any thing like three
> PHD
>
> this is very serious issue who invest his life to became a ccie for
> nothing by the way I had seen lot of people they adopt this way and after
> getting their ccie from their exp they learned because in real world
> there is rare chance to work on complex BGP 4.0
>
> my questions to ciso is
>
> re-certification should be again the practical not the theory again that
> can control lot of population for ccie
>
> why not they control the population of ccie s as u can see from ccie
> security y not they put the same standard to routing and switching also u
> can see routing and switching 14000 but security less then 300 people ?
> some day the numeric num for ccie will be finished and then they will
> start binary num cisco has closed his eyes when this ways every one
> know ccie is like a ccnp now ,,,,where u can get the real questions from
> prometric centers ..
>
> ADNAN(CCIE #001.220.3330.32222)
>
> JUNIPER NETWORK ENGINEER
>
> take care best regards,
>
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