RE: CCIE FOR SALE !!!1

From: Donny MATEO (donny.mateo@sg.ca-indosuez.com)
Date: Tue Dec 09 2003 - 22:27:22 GMT-3


aw..common Scott, I'm also using hotmail here.. (It's free hehehe... ).
The guy was just ranting on those paper / cheater CCIE, nothing on
specific. It's true though, If this things continue, there is going to bea
  time when even you do hold a CCIE number people would still want to
question your ability, since the certification would lack some of its
credibility (due to people breaking NDA and such).....
Hmm.. JNE isn't that another paper certification, I suppose we can also doa
  search in google and comes up with bunch of braindump or test cheat ? Ons
 econd thought, wait a sec I'll test that out
first....................................... yup, same stuff.

Donny

"Scott Morris" <swm@emanon.com>
Sent by: nobody@groupstudy.com
12/10/2003 05:39 AM
Please respond to "Scott Morris"

        To: "'fadnan habib'" <adnan_habib87@hotmail.com>,
<CCIELAB@groupstudy.com>
        cc: (bcc: Donny MATEO/ADPC/ASIA/BANQUE_INDOSUEZ/FR)
        Subject: RE: CCIE FOR SALE !!!1

Somehow, with your grasp of subtlety and your typing abilities, I doubt
Juniper would want to claim you for one of their engineers either.
'cause you're missing the point. But I'm sure you knew that already. I
think that's half the point of having a Hotmail account.

Scott -- One of those multiple CCIE's that isn't important

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
fadnan habib
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 2:16 PM
To: CCIELAB@groupstudy.com
Cc: ADNAN_HABIB87@hotmail.com
Subject: CCIE FOR SALE !!!1

Dear all

I am sorry but today I am going to explain some of the importance of
ccie in daily life ,,, infect it was my dream to have a ccie from
childhood and at the end of my young age I achieved !! wow !!at least
now no more wish to go here are some important point that can help full
for people that planning to take this exam in next 20 years by the way
who know cisco will be there or it will become disco



1.if some one is planning to take the exam there are so many sites are
offering on very cheap rates the original LABSs which u can pass on
first attempt no pain no worries basis  simple solution is to go to
google .com and in search just type original labs for ccie and u will
find at least 10000 companies offering this service J one site I know
is suresh home page 

2.if this will not work second simple solution is there are so many site
I mean lab centers are offering this service I know three of them and my
friend they passed from them send me off line email I will give u the
complete guide for this

3.cisco speed of changing the LABSs is very slow just grap one old ccie
person asked him about LABS and by YOUR luck u will get the same LAB..

I dont know y cisco is doing like Microsoft that they dont care about
this cases !!!even they are happy for growing population of ccie more
ccie more product in the market ,,, if some people are not agree with me
can they answer y people are going for dual or thrice ccie I had seen
five ccie cleared also may be he will be the owner of cisco, for this
there are two reason one is they want to be unique other is they have
recourses in centers or to web sites.J in past when there was no that
such a way ccie in single subject was more good then any thing like
three PHD

this is very serious issue who invest his life to became a ccie for
nothing by the way I had seen lot of people they adopt this way and
after getting their ccie from their exp they learned  because in real
world there is rare chance to work on complex BGP 4.0

my questions to ciso is

re-certification should be again the practical not the theory again that
can control lot of population for ccie

why not they control the population of ccie s as u can see from ccie
security y not they put the same standard to routing and switching also
u can see routing and switching 14000 but security less then 300 people
? some day the numeric num for ccie will be finished and then they will
start binary num  cisco has closed his eyes when this ways every one
know ccie is like a ccnp now ,,,,where u can get the real questions from
prometric centers ..

ADNAN(CCIE #001.220.3330.32222)

JUNIPER NETWORK ENGINEER

take care best regards,

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