RE: Sending RS232 Data over Frame Relay PVC

From: Adam Crisp (synergy) (adam.crisp@synergy-networking.co.uk)
Date: Wed Sep 24 2003 - 18:23:15 GMT-3


Kenneth,

Please can you confirm how your datastream is presented?

I'm pretty sure that RS232 is async only, but I may be wrong, did you get
this from the type of connector?
http://www.lammertbies.nl/comm/info/RS-232_specs.html

if you have got a syncronous serial line, what encapsulation is used - or is
it proprietory?

If you can find a way of conveting your datastreamn into UDP, then you can
use the unicast UDP multicast forwarding feature to get a single udp packet
over your frame relay network.........

STUN relies on TCP I think so this isn't scalable.

MAybe there are some cisco blue people who may be able to help you further

good luck

Adam

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth Wygand [SMTP:KWygand@customonline.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:40 PM
> To: Adam Crisp (synergy)
> Subject: RE: Sending RS232 Data over Frame Relay PVC
>
> Thank you!
>
> :)
>
> Kenneth E. Wygand
> Systems Engineer, Project Services
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adam Crisp (synergy) [mailto:adam.crisp@synergy-networking.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:45 PM
> To: Kenneth Wygand; Adam Crisp (synergy); ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: Sending RS232 Data over Frame Relay PVC
>
> oh no!, the rs232 bit got me
>
> I'll have a think
>
> Adam
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kenneth Wygand [SMTP:KWygand@customonline.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:33 PM
> > To: Adam Crisp (synergy); ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: Sending RS232 Data over Frame Relay PVC
> >
> > Adam,
> >
> > Thanks for your research and insight. Unfortunately I think this is a
> > "synchronous" 56K feed I must provide. Do you know if a similar
> feature
> > / functionality exists for a synchronous feed?
> >
> > Thanks for your help,
> >
> > Kenneth E. Wygand
> > Systems Engineer, Project Services
> > CISSP #37102, CCNP, CCDP, MCP 2000, CNA 5.1, Network+, A+
> > Custom Computer Specialists, Inc.
> > "It's not just about ending up where you want to be, it's about making
> > the most of the trip there."
> > -Anonymous
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adam Crisp (synergy)
> [mailto:adam.crisp@synergy-networking.co.uk]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:34 PM
> > To: Kenneth Wygand; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: RE: Sending RS232 Data over Frame Relay PVC
> > Importance: High
> >
> > This is quite simply the best question I have seen for ages.
> > If you get this working you will be a true network genius ;-)
> >
> > OK the solution is to turn your async feed into a UDP multicast
> stream.
> > multicast the feed about a bit to your 20 or so receivers and convert
> > the
> > udp back into async. Easy hun?
> >
> > I thought this up and did some digging on cco - and this feature
> > actually
> > exists. can't beleive it.
> >
> >
> > here it is: start here:
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1830/products_feature_
> > guid
> > e09186a0080087a48.html#wp5038
> >
> > scroll down a bit and you get to the multi cast example where you see
> > the
> > autocommand udptn command in use:
> > "autocommand udptn 172.1.1.1 /transmit"
> >
> >
> > I have a hunch that this may be a cco mistake and should read
> something
> > like
> > this:
> >
> > "autocommand udptn 230.5.5.5 /transmit" or whatever.
> >
> > After you get this working please will you let me know?
> >
> > nice one
> >
> >
> > Adam CCIE #11225
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kenneth Wygand [SMTP:KWygand@customonline.com]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 8:43 PM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Sending RS232 Data over Frame Relay PVC
> > >
> > > Elite Team,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a hub-and-spoke Frame relay network I am looking to implement
> -
> > > 20 spokes and 1 hub with Frame Relay connections from the hub to
> each
> > > remote site. I also have a 56K synchronous serial RS232 line I must
> > > transport over this frame-relay connection from the hub to each of
> the
> > > remote sites (proprietary application). ALL REMOTE SITES RECEIVE
> THE
> > > SAME INFORMATION FROM THE HUB!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Is there a way I can do this within a Cisco box? Would the DLCI
> > > configuration be able to support these requirements? I'd like to
> only
> > > send one copy of the feed into the Cisco router (thus requiring only
> > one
> > > serial connection) and then copy it 20 times. Cisco said this can
> be
> > > done within the frame relay DLCI configuration, but I am not so
> sure.
> > > I'm assuming that with this method, I'll still need to use 20 x 56K
> > > bandwidth on the frame relay link connected to my hub and that's not
> > > really a big deal to me. I just don't want to have to have 20
> serial
> > > interfaces on the Cisco Router to pump each individual feed (copied
> > 20x)
> > > to each remote site.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > IP traffic will have to cross the link as well for Internet Access
> > > purposes. CIR at each remote site will probably be about 256K,
> > > including the 56K synchronous serial connection being carried over
> > this
> > > link.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Kenneth E. Wygand
> > > Systems Engineer, Project Services
> > >
> > > CISSP #37102, CCNP, CCDP, MCP 2000, CNA 5.1, Network+, A+
> > > Custom Computer Specialists, Inc.
> > >
> > > "It's not just about ending up where you want to be, it's about
> making
> > > the most of the trip there."
> > > -Anonymous
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