From: Pete Yeargin \(pyeargin\) (pyeargin@cisco.com)
Date: Mon Sep 22 2003 - 13:50:10 GMT-3
As mentioned in several posts, I also recommend the NetMasterClass DoIt lab
scenarios. One of the key differentiators I've found in the DoIT labs are
the "Spot the Issue" sections. Not only do you get an answer key with
configs for all the routers, but this section breaks down each part of the
lab by section (e.g. Frame, OSPF, BGP, EIGRP, ISDN, Security, etc.) and
discusses the configuration tasks. It takes you through each section and
provides insight into what the author was hoping to purvey to the student as
they analyzed the task. As we all know, there are many ways to configure
things in a Cisco router and it's not always clear which method the author
is expecting. When you take the CCIE lab, much of the difficulty in this
lab is determining exactly what the lab creator is requesting in a timely
fashion. The DoIT labs provide examples of how questions would be worded in
relation to particular technologies and also discuss pitfalls that you can
come across when you try to configure those technologies.
This said, you definitely need those insights because these are the hardest
labs I've come across. You really have to think about the underlying
technologies and know how they work to configure many of the scenarios. If
you want mundane configuration tasks where you don't have to think too much,
these probably aren't the scenarios for you, but if you want to really learn
the technologies, how they work, how to configure them, and all the issues
that arise from configuring them, these scenarios really hit home. The
authors have taken the time to create scenarios in which you run across
these pitfalls as you might see in a real world network.
The workbooks are available on http://shop.groupstudy.com as mentioned in
previous threads. More information on the class and workbooks is available
at the author's site at http://www.netmasterclass.net. One thing to mention
is that these are my own personal opinions and it is up to you to determine
what works best and how you want to tailor your studying.
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ccie2be
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 7:13 AM
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Subject: can anyone tell me anything about I P E x p e r t
Hi Shane,
I agree with the comments about I P E x p e r t 's scenarios being very
good.
However, with regard to the e-scenarios, beware of the following:
a) they are riddled with typo's,
b) In many of the e-scenarios, the solution configs don't completely follow
from the lab instructions
c) The section "Instructors comments and Technical Tips" are very light on
both comments and tips - I found that far more often than not, if I didn't
understand why something should be configured as was shown in the solution
configs, this section didn't clear up the issues or confusion.
d) The I P E x p e r t support site, Certification Talk .com, for the
e-scenarios
didn't often provide useful or timely support.
As a consequence of the above, if you decide to purchase the e-scenarios, be
prepared to endure a great deal of frustration and wasted time.
Also, be aware that my comments only apply to I P E x p e r t 's e-scenarios
version
3.1 and not to the practice labs in I P E x p e r t 's Workbook product. I
haven't
yet done any of the workbook labs and so I can't comment on those from
personal experience. I do, however, get the sense from comments I've seen
here on Group Study that most people overall think highly of the workbook
product.
dt
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