From: Roberts, Larry (Larry.Roberts@expanets.com)
Date: Thu Sep 04 2003 - 00:32:54 GMT-3
Just as a point of clarification:
https://www.certmanager.net/cisco/public/agreement_ccc_v8.pdf
Section 6.2(b)
As "CCIE Written" isn't a certification your in material breach.
This gives Cisco the right to terminate its agreement with you ( and one you
HAD to agree to whether you remember signing it or not )
At which point :
6.4 Effect of termination
Tells you that you must immediately cease to represent yourself as cisco
certified.
This is the ALL ENCOMPASSING Certification agreement not the CCIE Logo
agreement.
Thanks
Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Williams [mailto:ccie2be@swbell.net]
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:58 PM
To: 'Dennis'; 'Tiffany Creighton'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Written
Funny you mention the rules, as I went back over Cisco's website looking for
the rules. Actually, until you finish the CCIE lab and get your number,
you're not bound by the rules set forth on the CCIE Logo usage webpage which
says (pertaining to text usage):
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Text References to the CCIE Program
The name CCIE may be used in textual descriptions that make fair and
accurate references to the program and to your certification status. Since
it is a trademark, it should be used as an adjective and never as a noun.
Examples of proper use include:
Do say: "John Smith is certified under the CCIET program; CCIE No. 1234" or
"John Smith, CCIET No. 1234"
Do not say: "John Smith is a CCIE" or "XYZ company is CCIE certified"
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Since there is nothing specifically saying you *can't* use it, and you
*can't* be bound by the CCIE Logo usage rules until you are a CCIE
(technically speaking), does it break the rules to use it this way?
I don't know.......... But to make sure I don't jeopardize my certs, I've
e-mailed ccie@cisco.com and asked for an official clarification. I will
post as soon as I receive an answer.
Mike W.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Dennis
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 5:58 PM
To: 'Tiffany Creighton'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE Written
It's good to be proud of your accomplishments. It's also good to honor the
rules as set forth by the company whos certification your pursuing and you
take said pride in. There is a standard for using the letters as you choose
to use them. And that standard is there is no such thing as a "CCIE Written"
designation to be used in any correspondence, stationary, business card,
email, etc. We don't make the rules... we just live by them.
Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Tiffany Creighton
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:27 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: CCIE Written
Those of you disgruntled by my placing "CCIE Written" after my name have way
too much time on your hands. I am not using the CCIE Written to get a job,
nor to trick people into thinking I've passed the lab exam. I already have
a job and am only focused on the certifications I'm pursuing. I put it on
there because I'm proud of it. Passing the written was a great
accomplishment and it constantly motivates me to succeed. If someone were
to cheat on a test or share answers and questions from the actual exam, they
would be violating the Cisco agreements. If I share with others that I've
passed the written exam, I'm just telling people I've passed the CCIE
written exam. Find a better way to use your time.
Tiffany Creighton
CCIE Written,CCDP, CCNP, CCDA, CCNA, CNA
Vital Support Systems
Systems Engineer
515.334.5737 Direct
515.334.5757 Fax
515.710.5456 Mobile
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