From: Thomas Larus (tlarus@cox.net)
Date: Wed Sep 03 2003 - 23:28:22 GMT-3
You are right that the frustrating situation of having passed only the CCIE
written qualifier exam and having no tangible certification to show for it
really motivates you to pass the Lab. I really felt like it was a "CCIE or
Bust" situation for me.
People who are studying for the lab should do what I had trouble doing (and
still have trouble doing, obviously). You should try your best not to waste
too much of your precious time with these threads.
In a few days, someone will make some comment that will start the old
"experience versus certification" debate, or the old "CCIE's with low CCIE
numbers are better than those with high CCIE numbers" debate. If you really
want to waste some time, go over to Cisco's own forum and read the hundreds
or thousands of pages of messages posted by a certain triple CCIE and the
various people who feel like arguing with him or agreeing with him. Yes, I
get suckered into emotional debates myself, and you would not believe how
many emails I have composed but never sent, because I don't feel like
alienating thousands of people at a time.
All this debate is fine except when you really need to accomplish something
important like passing the Lab Exam. So just let the stuff roll off you
like water off a duck's back and remember why you are here (on this forum,
not on this Earth.)
Best regards,
Tom Larus, the long-winded CCIE #10,014
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Wygand" <KWygand@customonline.com>
To: "Jon Campbell" <jcampbell2000@earthlink.net>; "Tiffany Creighton"
<Tiffany.Creighton@vitalsite.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: RE: CCIE Written
> I agree with Jon. To me, putting "CCIE Written" after your name is
> almost like a false claim. That's like a sophomore in college adding
> "Bachelors Degree (32 credits)" after their name, or someone completing
> a 7-year Doctorate PhD program putting "PhD (3 years)" after their name.
> It's a false claim of qualification.
>
> I agree it's hard to warrant spending so much time and so many endless
> hours studying for one of the most difficult written exams, then passing
> it, and then being frustrated because you really didn't earn any
> "certification power" to your credentials.
>
> I know how you feel because I originally put "CCIE (written)" after my
> name when I passed. After about a week, I thought about it and it
> really seemed inappropriate. Now that I took it off, it's more
> motivation to pass the lab and put it back on legitimately!
>
> Kenneth E. Wygand
> Systems Engineer, Project Services
> CISSP #37102, CCNP, CCDP, MCP 2000, CNA 5.1, Network+, A+
> Custom Computer Specialists, Inc.
> "It's not just about ending up where you want to be, it's about making
> the most of the trip there."
> -Anonymous
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Campbell [mailto:jcampbell2000@earthlink.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:11 AM
> To: Tiffany Creighton; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: CCIE Written
>
> So does this mean when you passed the BSCN test for your CCNP you put
> ---
> CCNP BSCN, after your name even though you didn't achieve the CCNP
> status
> at that point???? Somebody call the Whammmm-bulance.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tiffany Creighton" <Tiffany.Creighton@vitalsite.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 09:26 AM
> Subject: CCIE Written
>
>
> > Those of you disgruntled by my placing "CCIE Written" after my name
> have
> > way too much time on your hands. I am not using the CCIE Written to
> get
> > a job, nor to trick people into thinking I've passed the lab exam. I
> > already have a job and am only focused on the certifications I'm
> > pursuing. I put it on there because I'm proud of it. Passing the
> > written was a great accomplishment and it constantly motivates me to
> > succeed. If someone were to cheat on a test or share answers and
> > questions from the actual exam, they would be violating the Cisco
> > agreements. If I share with others that I've passed the written exam,
> > I'm just telling people I've passed the CCIE written exam. Find a
> > better way to use your time.
> >
> >
> >
> > Tiffany Creighton
> >
> > CCIE Written,CCDP, CCNP, CCDA, CCNA, CNA
> >
> > Vital Support Systems
> >
> > Systems Engineer
> >
> > 515.334.5737 Direct
> >
> > 515.334.5757 Fax
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> > 515.710.5456 Mobile
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