From: Roberto Adjakou (radjakou@cfao.sn)
Date: Tue Aug 19 2003 - 14:56:11 GMT-3
1/ In the same parapraph, u can read this "The router simply ignores these symbols when converting a number if they are used in a translation rule."
2/ In my opinion, only for outbound call
Cordialement/Best regards;
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Roberto Adjakou
E-mail : RAdjakou@cfao.sn
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De : wing_lam@jossynergy.com [mailto:wing_lam@jossynergy.com]
Envoyi : mardi 19 ao{t 2003 01:59
@ : Scott Morris
Cc : 'MMoniz'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Objet : RE: Voice dialnumber sequence
Hi Scott,
Two more question:
1) DOC CD says "." cannot be used in translation rule, but I can enter this, is DOC CD wrong?
2) Do num-exp applies to inbound cal? or it applies to outbound call only?
Thx,
BBD (Big Black Dog)
"Scott Morris"
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nobody@groupstudy cc:
.com Subject: RE: Voice dialnumber sequence
08/19/2003 05:02
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Please respond to
"Scott Morris"
Only if you have the num-exp on both routers. Otherwise, PhoneB would have to have a dial-peer matching "1" in order to get the leg started to begin with.
The upgrade isn't really all that bad, it's just kinda freaky to put all your faith in a backup session then wax the entire drive! :)
Scott
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of MMoniz
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 4:36 PM
To: swm@emanon.com; 'MMoniz'; wing_lam@jossynergy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Voice dialnumber sequence
I totally agree. But if 4100 is a voip peer, using num-exp will allow both phone A and phone B to dial 1 to reach this peer correct? Assuming both Phone A and B are on the same router.
So if the question says "when phone A dials 1 it should call 4100" then a translation rule should be used right?
Ps....looking forward to a CCM 3.3 upgrade.....yeeeehaaaah and then pray.....
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Morris [mailto:swm@emanon.com]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 4:18 PM
To: 'MMoniz'; wing_lam@jossynergy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Voice dialnumber sequence
Heheheh... Absolutely! CallManager makes this stuff so much simpler!
In reality, I would say use num-exp where possible. It's easier and allows you to retain your hair longer. And I can't picture any R&S scenario where calling number patterns need to change (which would have to be translation rules on within IOS).
Keep things simple!
If phone A dials 1 and you have a num-exp from 1 to 4100, then the dial peer matching 4100 on RouterA (assuming match with Phone A) will be used. This is pointed to a session target of RouterB (match Phone B) where the digits also have to match things on the way in. An h323 connection by itself is not magically associated with a dial peer. The connection is set up, digits are passed and peers are matched. The number still being 4100 should match to a POTS peer for Phone B.
Scott
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of MMoniz
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 3:58 PM
To: Scott Morris; 'MMoniz'; wing_lam@jossynergy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Voice dialnumber sequence
I agree...I know I scratched mine a few times over this. Thankfully all this is handled in Call Manager for my real net. Would you say this is a good rule of thumb.
If the question states Phone A should call 4100 when 1 is dialed and Phone A is the only phone on the router, use num-exp?
But if there is more than 1 phone on the router the only choice is to use translation pattern on the voice port connecting phone A?
Otherwise Phone B will be subjected to the num-exp or translation rule on the dial-peer also, correct?
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of Scott Morris
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 3:37 PM
To: 'MMoniz'; wing_lam@jossynergy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Voice dialnumber sequence
The translation rules, if on a voice port are kinda tricky... By this, it depends on the command structure for which way things happen!
Translation rules are one of those things that make you scratch your head a few times. :)
So with your rule set, if the call is coming IN to the voice-port, translation occurs first. Look at the "test translation rule" command to watch the flow.
You can also apply the rule to a voip peer with the "voip-incoming translation-rule" or "translate-outgoing" commands.
For more information, check out: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1835/products_configur
ation_guide_chapter09186a0080080aec.html
Scott
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From: MMoniz [mailto:ccie2002@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 1:54 PM
To: Scott Morris; wing_lam@jossynergy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Voice dialnumber sequence
Scott, aren't translation rules applied before a dial peer match on a voice port? So if I have this rule applied to the voice port, the translation happens first when this phone dials?
translation-rule 1
Rule 0 ^1 4100
Rule 1 ^2. 4100
Rule 2 ^3.. 4100
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of Scott Morris
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:19 AM
To: wing_lam@jossynergy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Voice dialnumber sequence
Num-exp is done after digits are captured (digit analysis) but BEFORE matching to a dial peer.
Translation rules, applied to peers/ports are done at that point in time, so AFTER matching to a dial peer.
So match based on whether you are changing the rules before or after match. :)
HTH,
Scott
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From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of wing_lam@jossynergy.com
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 4:23 AM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Voice dialnumber sequence
Hi group,
When a POTS inbound calling to 14085551234, I would like to ask
following:
1) When a Translation rule 1408 --> 8 is configured and "translate-outgoing called" is configured in the VoIP dial-peer, what should I use in the destination pattern in a VoIP dial-peer? 14085551234 or 85551234?
2) If a "num-exp 1234 14085551234" is configured, what should I use in the destination pattern in a VoIP dial-peer? 1234 or 14085551234?
Any good link mentioning above matching sequcncy?
Thx,
BBD (Big Black Dog)
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