From: Joe Martin (jmartin@capitalpremium.net)
Date: Tue Aug 19 2003 - 13:18:08 GMT-3
dt,
I would be surprised if IPv6 is on the lab at all. If it is, I can't
imagine that they would include more than 2 or 3 points on it. Thet
certainly are not going to make any other points/sections dependent upon
your knowledge of IPv6 (i.e. using IPv6 addressing instead of IPv4).
It will probably be something like: "Configure R1 and R2 ethernet interfaces
with the IPv6 addresses shown in diagram 6. Be sure that you can ping the
IPv6 addresses; you only need to be able to ping these addresses from R1 and
R2." - 2 points
Just my 2 cents (after 5 attempts).
Joe Martin
CCIE #12035
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
ccie2be
Sent: August 19, 2003 9:53 AM
To: Group Study; Joe Martin
Subject: Re: IPv6 inclusion in Lab
Hi Joe,
I appreciate what you're saying but the scary thing about ipv6 is that it
could obsolete alot of what we know within the core topics.
For example, suppose I know BGP perfectly using ipv4. Right now, I haven't
a clue about implementing BGP using ipv6 and would probably lose all the
points for bgp if something like that were on the lab. Very scary!!!
Heck, at the moment, I wouldn't even know how to get the F/R cloud up using
IPv6 addresses. Maybe it's easy, but right now, where I can spot and
correct a typo in an instant, I'm not sure how long it will take to get to
that point with IPv6 addressing.
My initial reaction was as you suggested: IPv6, if it's on the lab, would
be nothing more than a fringe topic not worth more than a few points, but if
IPv4 addressing is not used in the lab, I'm sunk and $1250 plus expenses
poorer. dt
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Martin" <jmartin@capitalpremium.net>
To: "Larry Roberts" <larryr@netbeam.net>; "John Matijevic"
<matijevi@bellsouth.net>; "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "Group Study"
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: IPv6 inclusion in Lab
> All,
>
> IP v6 may or may not be on the lab. I think you should treat it like all
> the other fringe topics. KNow the very basics and where to find it on the
> Doc CD.
>
> I cannot stress enough the impotance of spending most if not all of your
> time concentrating on the core topics. Regardless of what fringe topics
are
> on your specific lab, if you know the core like you should, you will be
> finished with it by lunch. This will leave you all afternoon to configure
> and lookup the fringe topics.
>
> Core: Switching, FR, ATM, ISDN, All IGPs, Redis, BGP
>
> There is no reason for anyone to lose any points here. This will be 65 -
70
> points. Don't lose any points here and you only need to get 1/3 of the
> remaining points; the fringe topics, including IPv6.
>
> I'm not saying don't study the fringe. Just don't waste too much time on
> it. Especially if you know the core cold.
>
> Almost as important as knowing the core is saving time to check your
> configs. YOU MUST LEAVE TIME TO CHECK YOUR CONFIGS. You will be amazed
at
> how many small, silly mistakes you made. I finished all configs by 1:30.
I
> stayed til 4:30 checking configs over and over again. I found mistakes
even
> on my third pass through everything; as late as 4:20 I found mistakes.
>
> My point: Don't spend more than a couple hours on IPv6, know the core,
and
> leave time to check configs.
>
> (stepping off my soapbox)
>
> Good Luck to All,
>
> Joe Martin
> CCIE #12035
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Larry Roberts
> Sent: August 19, 2003 9:10 AM
> To: John Matijevic; ccie2be; Group Study
> Subject: Re: IPv6 inclusion in Lab
>
>
> Group,
>
> IPv6 is being taught (albeit very lightly) in the CCNP track now, so I
would
> expect to see in on the CCIE lab very shortly. The "T" trains are fair
game
> in the lab, so if 12.2 T supports IPv6 I would at least go into the lab
> knowing the basics and where to find it on the Doc CD.
>
> HTH,
> Larry Roberts
> CCIE #7886 (R&S / Security)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Matijevic" <matijevi@bellsouth.net>
> To: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "Group Study" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 6:45 AM
> Subject: Re: IPv6 inclusion in Lab
>
>
> > CCIE2be,
> > IPV6 functionality is in 12.2, and since there seems to be so much
> > documentation on it, I would plan on learning it. I am planning to
learn
> as
> > much as possible for IPV6, and if is included in major protocols, could
be
> > worth a lot more than a few points. The good news is we will be the
first
> > one hired for IPV6 projects that come up in the future. The bad news is
> that
> > again there is a lot of information to learn. But I would learn this
> > technology not only for the exam but for real world. IPV6 is nothing new
> > this technology has been around for at least 5 years maybe longer. Now
the
> > IOS is starting to support it with 12.2, I imagine by 12.3 you will have
> > full support of it, and thats when the companies, will implement it.
There
> > is a lot of documentation on this that should not be taken lightly.
> > Sincerely,
> > Matijevic
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>
> > To: "Group Study" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 9:33 AM
> > Subject: IPv6 inclusion in Lab
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Facts:
> > >
> > > 1) On Sept. 1, the lab will be running version IOS 12.2 (which
> release?
> > > unknown)
> > >
> > > 2) IOS 12.2(T) supports IPv6
> > >
> > > Does that mean that IPv6 is on the lab? I don't know but I can't
> imagine
> > that
> > > if it is it will be worth more than a few points or that correctly
> > configuring
> > > other technologies will be dependant on a thorough knowledge of IPv6.
> > >
> > > That's just my opinion - but I would like to hear what others think.
dt
> > >
> > >
> > >
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