Re: QOS CIM

From: cisco_efiko@o2.co.uk
Date: Wed Aug 06 2003 - 15:24:49 GMT-3


Hey Guys,
I really wish I had the QOS CIM when I took my 1st Lab. Although we now
have it somewhere on a server.
How many of you can carry around your racks around like in the train, bus
or at the beach....That is the use for a CIM. It's a learning tool (and
a great one at that) and it has all the information you need in one place.
The topology and the logic behind every topic is what Cisco employs to train
the TAC group (got that from a Cisco friend). I have a plan to workout all
the questions in CIM on a rack (ofcourse a life one) and I can asure you
that as far as that technology is concerned I am game. This is not to over
rate the CIM....it's just a learning tool.

Regards,
Efiko

>-- Original Message --
>From: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>
>To: "Group Study" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>,
> "Tony Schaffran"
> <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>
>Subject: Re: QOS CIM
>Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:55:54 -0400
>Reply-To: "ccie2be" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>
>
>
>Hi Tony,
>
>You're absolutely right - a CIM is no replacement for the real thing.
That
>I know but that doesn't negate all it's usefulness.
>
>The reason I'm interested in this CIM is because I expect it will provide
>me
>with a reasonably good foundation in a relatively short time. It's
>precisely because it doesn't allow me to get into too much trouble and
>provides good troubleshooting pointers for the basic stuff that I figure
>I'll save alot time and frustration figuring out the basics.
>
>On the other hand, I don't expect I'll be an expert on the topic after
going
>through it - just competent on the fundamentals which is a good start.
 Raj
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tony Schaffran" <groupstudy@cconlinelabs.com>
>To: "'ccie2be'" <ccie2be@nyc.rr.com>; "'Group Study'"
><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:11 AM
>Subject: RE: QOS CIM
>
>
>> A SIM will never give you the full functionality of the real thing.
Do
>you
>> have any idea how much programming it would take to simulate the logic
>of
>> just one router, let alone a complete lab? I do not know myself, but
it
>> would have to be huge. Usually, SIM's are written to a specific task
and
>> that is all you are allowed to do. In most cases, you are not even
>allowed
>> to make a mistake, because the command you would have incorrectly used
>would
>> not be there.
>>
>> Just food for thought. Good luck.
>>
>> Tony Schaffran
>> Network Analyst
>> CCIE #11071
>> CCNP, CCNA, CCDA,
>> NNCDS, NNCSS, CNE, MCSE
>>
>> www.cconlinelabs.com
>> Your #1 choice for online Cisco rack rentals.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
Of
>> ccie2be
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:00 AM
>> To: Group Study
>> Subject: QOS CIM
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm not strong enough on QOS and I was considering buying the Cisco CIM
>> covering
>> QOS.
>>
>> For those who have used it, I'm wondering what they think of it. In
>> particular, I'm wondering how comprehesive it is. I don't need it for
>basic
>> QOS stuff like
>> priority queue but rather the more advanced ccie level stuff like Frame
>> Relay
>> Traffic Shaping, WRED, etc.
>>
>> Also, if anybody wants to sell me their used copy for a cheap price,
I'd
>be
>> willing to buy it.
>>
>> Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks, Raj
>>
>>
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