From: pierreg (pierreg@mail.planetkc.com)
Date: Mon Aug 04 2003 - 17:06:47 GMT-3
Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
Pierre-Alex
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From: "Deepesh Chouhan" <deepesh@cisco.com>
To: "group study" <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 6:17 PM
Subject: CCIE # 12046
> Hey folks
>
> Finally - CCIE # 12046 (On July 31st in San Jose)
>
> Few common/not-so-common tips and thoughts
>
> Top 5 requirements for clearing this exam
> =========================================
> - Practice
> 4-5/4-5 rule - last 4-5 weeks before exam -
> 4-5 hours a day. each day
> Varies from person to person
> - Time management and discipline
> Your job, your weekends, your social needs
> Your playstation, skiing, football :)
> Keep your priorities straight
> - Sound theoretical knowledge
> No ... you can't clear this exam just by practicing
> OSPF commands for 1000 hours. You should know
> theory behind the protocols. That will help you
> in filtering out possible solutions for a lab question
> - Browsing/Searching skills on univerCD
> Always refer to CD first.
> - How to read English - CCIE has its own english.
> Questions are never like "config this". Read between the
> lines, but don't try to dig too deep and try to read
> other side of the page
>
> What i used
> ===========
> Books - Jeff Doyle I and II, Solie, Halabi, UniverCD, Cisco docs
> Practice workbook - IP expert WB 4.0
> (pros) 1. lab 36
> 2. good website and forum
> 3. labs 19-35 difficulty level is good, but does not cover all topics
> (cons) 1. Solution errors
> 2. Repitive stuff in some labs
> 3. labs 19-35 difficulty level is good, but does not cover all topics
>
>
> Disclaimer : Personal opinion follows :)
>
> 1. Does it matter - number of attempts
> ======================================
> <snip from msnbc.com>
> Her husband and their 8-year-old son would sprint past her in a race to
the
> mountaintop, and Laurel Blair Clark would amble behind, absorbing each
smell
> and sight nature could offer in the hikes she loved to take. She knew the
> journey was more important than the destination, - Jon Clark, husband of
> Columbia shuttle astronaut Laurel Clark.
> <snip>
>
> My journey took me whole 3 years and 4 attempts. Earlier, like everyone
else
> i wanted to race to the mountain top.
> But with time i started enjoying the journey. Countless hours of
practice,
> technology, geek talk, ospf-dreams :)
> that was so much fun ... no wonder i feel clueless today :)
>
> You are a CCIE ... no matter how many attempts you had ... my number is
> 12046 and not 12046-4.
> And there is a reason for it.
> - you can't clear this exam, just by taking it again and again. 1st
attempt
> or 5th attempt - you can clear it only if are technically sound, have tons
> of practice, expert search skills and good speed
> - For most of us preparing for the lab exam is not our full time job. We
> have our primary jobs with its own needs, emergencies and diving catches.
> Time management and prioritizing is a key.
>
> In my case i used the first 2 attempts to test the waters. (for a 2-day
lab
> format and 1-day lab format)
> If you are just too worried about CCIE lab ghost stories, AND if you can
> afford it, remove the stress and anxiety by trying it out. My 3rd was
close
> ... CCIE English killed it.
>
> 2. Why should I do CCIE
> =======================
> If you are not a CCIE does not mean that you don't know anything. On the
> other hand, if you are CCIE, that does not mean that you know everything.
> For CCIE lab, you are not supposed to know everything. You should be able
to
> find solutions within the time constraints. Then why do it ?
>
> CCIE is quantifiable achievement - something which you can express in
> words - where ever you go. It is something which everyone knows about. It
> will "Atleast" help you in getting your foot in the door.
>
> 3. Are there too many CCIEs
> ===========================
> We get lots of "too many ccies" "market is getting saturated" emails.
> But i think people who are worried about it, are those, who want to be
CCIE
> "only" for money.
> Money part is controlled by market economics of demand and supply.
> CCIE is about knowledge and empowerment it brings. Money is one of them
>
> For the records - the topic i hated most on this mailing list - People
> cribbing about not getting their CCIE plaque.
> Dude - people are trying to study here. I promise I won't do that :)
>
> Thanks
> Deepesh
>
>
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