From: Joseph Rinehart (jjrinehart@hotmail.com)
Date: Fri Aug 01 2003 - 01:23:10 GMT-3
Nah, we are glad to hear success stories, trust me.  I went down in flames
on my first attempt (December 2002) and I am slated to try again on
September 4 (after deferring once and getting farmed out a week because of a
Cisco departmental meeting).
Hopefully my second attempt with clinch it, because I pay out of pocket for
everything, but will get reimbursed for the exam if I pass.
I am thinking of sacrificing a small goat to the router gods to hedge my
bet.  Of couse, I will include the correct incantation, I think it goes
"show ip interface brief."  (lol)
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Snow, Tim" <timothy.snow@eds.com>
To: "'Akusika Papaa'" <jmenz24@speakeasy.org>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 8:54 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE #12042. First time!! w00t!
> Wow.  You actually read the whole story?  I should apologize now for
anyone
> who had to read all that.  I guess I was bored and wanted to ramble.
>
> I hope someone got something out of it.....
>
> Thanks Akusika... Much appreciated...
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Akusika Papaa [mailto:jmenz24@speakeasy.org]
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 11:25 PM
> To: Snow, Tim; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: CCIE #12042. First time!! w00t!
>
>
> Congratulation. You also rock dude!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Snow, Tim
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:46 PM
> To: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
> Subject: CCIE #12042. First time!! w00t!
>
>
> I apologize for the lenght of this "story" but I was bored and sitting in
> the airport with a hangover. Been two years in the making...
>
> First off, I'd like to thank myself.  Because without me, none of this
would
> have been possible.  I'll
> thank the others in the following story....
>
>
> I sit in the Raleigh RDU airport as a CCIE.  CCIE #12042 to be exact. The
> odd thing is that I haven't
> seen the email from cisco stating so, yet I've verfified my status on line
> and it is true. W00t!!!
>
> I walked into the test feeling pretty confident as I know that I've hit
all
> the major areas and even
> did a deep dive into areas that most likely weren't going to be on this
test
> but I knew they'd help
> in my career. That's how I was using the motivation factor of this test,
to
> learn as much as I could
> about routing and routing protocols in general. Not for the test but for
> myself and my career.  I met
> the requirements of the lab yet I know there is a bunch of stuff that I
> don't know. Am I proficient in
> BGP?  Yes, enough for cisco to say so.  Am I a routing wizard when it
comes
> to BGP? Well, Yes *grin*.
> Enough to be dangerous.  That's the point, your being tested on a small
> portion of that they're gear
> can do. You just have to be able to do the requirements of that lab.  So
you
> could take your chances
> and be really good at certain things and not at others. If you get the
test
> that maps well to your
> studies than your all set.
>
> I showed up at building 3 at 0720.  Was told that I was late. Guess the
> other two folks were there at
> 0715.  Hmph. No biggie.  Walked in and started my lab at 0730..  Read the
> whole thing over once,
> mentally noting areas that I could be bitten on.   At 11:30, the proctor
> said it was lunch...  I was
> nearing the end.  Almost done I thought?  Guess so...
>
> Went to lunch.  I looked over the food.  A mexican chicken and rice type
of
> dish.  I scooped some onto
> my plate, noting that it looked a little spicy.  Had a peice of chocolate
> cake as well.  Not full, but
> content.   It appears that spicey stuff wasn't sitting well in my stomach.
> Ahh well.  Lunch ended but
> I bounced outside for a quick smoke.  Came back in and sat down to finish
> this beast. Now 12:00
>
> 45 minutes later, I felt that I was done.....  Time for review #1.  35
> minutes later (now 1320)
> Picked up a couple of mistakes that I had made (typos mainly, fixed a
couple
> of glitches).  I began
> review #2 and that took another 30 minutes.  I thought to myself. I can't
> leave at 1400 can I? Went out
> for a smoke again. I did review #3, that brought me up to 1420.    I
"played
> around" for a bit.
> Sat away from the keyboard and read my test, making sure I watched out for
> any plays on words that I
> might have missed.  I left at 1500 back to the hotel.
>
> Back in the room, I brought up the doc cd and looked over some areas that
> were on my test. I got hit
> with the "did I do that right" Did I set the priority higher or lower on
> that question? Did it work?"
>
>     Sat in the room looking over the doc cd, feeling pretty confident yet
I
> looked over in the
> ashtray and it appears that I had smoked a bunch so obviously I wasn't as
> confident as I had thought.
> Closed the notebook out of anger and clicked on the TV.  Boy, it's amazing
> what 1 hour of Super Mario
> Bros will do.
>
> Went out looking for a steakhouse.. Not to be found.  Went back to the
hotel
> to see what kinda food I
> could find online.  Ended up order chinese and a couple (4) beers from
> downstairs.  Food arrived and
> I had put down a couple of beers already.  Feeling better now.  I decided
> that I need to go out and
> find myself something to do.  I went driving around for a bit, found a
> sports bar type of place. Parked
> the car and went in.   I'm not sure what time I got in but I do remember
> calling a Taxi.  I won't get
> into all the details of the night but I had a good time *grin*
>
> Woke up at 0920 with a pounding headache.  Opened up the laptop, and I
> noticed 18 new emails (mostly
> groupstudy) but there was one that jumped out.   The heading "Congrats
> 12042" and it was from Peter at
> cyscoexpert.   I didn't see anything from cisco.com.   Hmmmm, I thought.
I
> opened up the email from
> peter and it read something like "Congrats Tim.  #12042.  We knew you
could
> do it"....  I quickly
> went over to the cisco.com verification tool and verified that he was
> pulling my leg.  It's True!!!!
> I am #12042.     I inquired about not receiving an email from cisco.  It
> appears that the email was
> sent to my home email address.  Doh!  Looked over that minor detail...
hehe.
> I called worked and
> spoke to a couple co-workers. It was a great feeling!!!
>
> The funny this is, I promised myself a new pc if/when I passed this thing.
> Funny part was that the
> night before my test (while waiting for my pizza to arrive) I spoke to a
> couple friends online and
> one mentioned a deal online on a new dell pc.  Not thinking, I ordered it.
> Once the order was placed,
> I thought, I sure as sh... hope I didn't just jinx myself.  HA!
>
> Now, for the good stuff.  Hope most of you skipped all that story stuff
and
> jumped down here.
>
> I did a large portion of the commerical labs out there.  Good preparation,
> mostly for the different
> types of setups that you may run into.  My take on them is as follows.
>
> Hello Computers. Not worth the money at all.  Same topology, terrible
> wording, incomplete answers,
>    the first 3 pages of every lab is the EXACT same thing as the lab
before.
>
>
> Ipexpert.  Very good labs.  Taught me a bunch.  Different topologies every
> time, different addressing,
>    kept me on my toes every time. Worth the money.
>
> #1 I can't say enough about the guys at Cyscoexpert.  Brian, Bahram,
Peter,
> et al. You guys ROCK!
>  I went to their class I suppose for a different reason that most.  I went
> to make sure that I had
> done and prepared for all the things that I thought would be on there.
Not
> to have them teach me the
> stuff.  They showed me tricks to do certain common tasks, as well as
easier
> ways to tackle others.
> The labs I encountered during those days in chi-town were tougher than
what
> I went through yesterday.
> Their techniques are strong, their dedication is unsurpassed, and their
> willingness to teach in unmatched.
> I left their class feeling like I was in great shape.  I kept focus on
some
> other obscure technologies that
> I didn't want to get bitten by.
>
> I also have to say thanks to the guys on #cisco.  Chi, you my friend,
really
> helped me during those late
> night study sessions. Although not a partner per say as you had already
> gotten your number, you helped
> me drill down and get very granular on certain topics. Thanks bro.  The
rest
> of the guys, Fudamak, Geoffz,
> JC, Stu, pete_i, georgeb, Peli, rocky, lewisX, and the rest of the guys...
> And girl *Zukee*... Thank you.....  Security IE next?
>
> Thanks to groupstudy, and Paul in particular for hosting such a great
forum.
> One thing, y'all need to stop
> posting questions to the group when you get back from the lab. Naughty
> Naughty....
>
> To the guys at work. Thanks a bunch to you all to.  Sure did help me keep
> focus.
>
> Thanks to my mom, for being so supportive.  She believed in all the time.
>
> To the 10k other ccie's in this fine world,  see you at the Security Lab!
>
>
>
> Timothy Snow
> CCIE #12042
> EDS - Network Operations
> MS 3B
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