Re: ccie Lab grading

From: David L Stewart (D.Stewart@mail.UTexas.edu)
Date: Wed Jul 30 2003 - 07:47:06 GMT-3


Brett brings up a great point. The move to mostly automated
grading has some holes and may score a section complete when
the entire solution may not satisfy the requirement.

The moral of this story is "configure everything". Sounds
obvious but a lot of candidates will skip sections when they
are not familiar with the material. A quick look on the
CD and copying the basic config for that technology may result
in points.

The flip side of automated grading is that it rewards the
expected result and not other solutions that may also satisfy
the requirements. That's where a regrade may help you. As
time goes on, this should be more rare as they tune the
grading programs.

I took the R&S three times before I passed. I am very satisfied
that the tests are fair and that the grading is consistent. The
one-day lab has helped a lot. I was also told that a test taken
at a location is regraded at another location. The same proctor
group that graded it first does not do the regrade.

Dave
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At 05:11 AM 7/30/2003, Brett Lewis wrote:
>I took my lab back in March for the second time and failed. When I got my
>results it appeared that I had received marks for sections that I had not
>answered correctly. I called Cisco and they agreed to open the scoring
>sheet as I was making what they felt was a weird accusation and evidently
>I had put in the command they were looking for even though the complete
>solution may not have worked. They would not rescore unless I paid but it
>cleared my mind a bit. Another guy in my lab had a scenario that he tested
>and verified and still got 0 marks, he rescored and still failed.
>
>I have to agree that when you fail you fail and if Cisco want you to fail
>you fail!
>
>Brett Lewis
>
>>From: "George Yiannibas" <hintgy@hotmail.com>
>>Reply-To: "George Yiannibas" <hintgy@hotmail.com>
>>To: z_hinz@hotmail.com, badger@pongo.org, dcresley@yahoo.com
>>CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>Subject: Re: ccie Lab grading
>>Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 09:22:06 +0300
>>
>>Hi all,
> From Cisco site :
>>"Before requesting a reread, candidates should consider the fact that,
>>since the practice of rereads was begun in January 2002, it has resulted
>>in only .3% of exams being changed from a Fail to a Pass."
>>Zac is right, a rescore is a waste of money. If Cisco says you failed you
>>failed end of story. Sorry if I sound harsh but I recently failed and I
>>know what it feels like.
>>
>>Regards
>>George
>>2nd attempt August 19 Brussels
>>
>>>From: "Zachary Hinz" <z_hinz@hotmail.com>
>>>Reply-To: "Zachary Hinz" <z_hinz@hotmail.com>
>>>To: badger@pongo.org, dcresley@yahoo.com
>>>CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>Subject: Re: ccie Lab grading
>>>Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:22:30 -0500
>>>
>>>In my personal opinion, I think it is a freakin' joke that a rescore is
>>>even an option.
>>>
>>>A.) The test cost $1250 + and trip.
>>>B.) Isn't this supposed to be the most prestigious networking
>>>certification around?
>>>
>>>At least make us believe that 99.9% of the time it is being scored
>>>correctly. Can you call the Bar Association and ask them to rescore the
>>>test that were really confident you passed?
>>>
>>>Zac
>>>
>>>>From: badger <badger@pongo.org>
>>>>Reply-To: badger <badger@pongo.org>
>>>>To: "Cresley Dansen" <dcresley@yahoo.com>
>>>>CC: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>>>Subject: Re: ccie Lab grading
>>>>Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:45:10 -0700
>>>>
>>>>Hello Cresley,
>>>>
>>>>Tuesday, July 29, 2003, 3:36:02 PM, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>CD> Hi, all,
>>>>
>>>>CD> I attempted the lab yesterday. Thought I did well. But the results
>>>>CD> came out totally different. I even got a low score on IGP for which
>>>>CD> I verified that everything worked. Really weird ...
>>>>
>>>>CD> Did anyone have the same experience? I suspect they might
>>>>CD> have graded someone else's rack. Is this possible?
>>>>
>>>>CD> I wrote to ccie-lab@cisco.com already. But no response.
>>>>
>>>>CD> Thanks for any suggestion!
>>
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