From: kym blair (kymblair@hotmail.com)
Date: Tue Jul 22 2003 - 06:08:16 GMT-3
Larry,
I totally agree with Jay. Hang in there man. You'll have some great war
stories to go with your CCIE.
Kym, #11115 (age 52)
>From: "Jay Chandradas" <jachandr@cisco.com>
>Reply-To: "Jay Chandradas" <jachandr@cisco.com>
>To: "Larry Sinclair" <lsinclair@ev1.net>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: RE: CCIE lab attempts...
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:09:34 -0700
>
>Larry,
>
>I have respect for you, my friend. You have the dedication which is the
>most
>important for a CCIE.
>
>You will be a CCIE. who cares the attempts !!!
>
>cheers
>Jay
>CCIE # 8060 ( R &S , Security )
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
>Larry Sinclair
>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:35 PM
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: CCIE lab attempts...
>
>
>I have taken it 7 times and have recently had to retake the written. The
>first time I was forced to take it by my company. The second time I knew I
>was'nt ready but I waited to cancel until it was too late and took it
>because my company was still paying. The 3rd time I had finally learned
>OSPF
>and thought I might get lucky. (CCIE is not luck). The 4th time a friend of
>mine gave me his lab and I was able to fail it for free. The 5th time was
>the first time on the 1 day lab and the last time it was paid for. The 6th
>time I was unemployed a week before and had to pay myself (My company went
>bankrupt). The last time I was really ready (I thought) and got burned on
>unexpected things that NDA will not let me go into (I went into panic mode
>immediately and even messed up IGP).
>
>Why can't I pass the lab?
>1. I'm not the smartest person that ever attempted it.
>2. I am less than one year from being 50. Let's be honest, age doesn't help
>speed or retention, (but it does bring a better attitude).
>3. I never had any training. I've been attempting all from books and the
>website.
>4. I am not in a study group, except for the last 3 months on this list.
>(It's great!)
>5. I have a family(kids) and all that stuff (6 dogs, a bird, cat, chickens,
>etc...).
>6. I am not putting all my spare time into it like I should.
>7. I do not have a complete practice lab.
>8. I let all the above excuses be excuses.
>
>Will I ever pass?
> Maybe not, but I will be going again as soon as I can get up the money
>and drive 1280 miles in my no air conditioned 170,000 mile mini-van (from
>Houston, TX to RTP). I sleep in truck stops. I guess this is my
>hobby(failing). My friends and family think I should give up and spend my
>time and money more productively (My wife does back me, but I know she
>would
>rather back me if I was doing something else that was cheaper).
>
> Advice from me; Don't do as I did. I think study partners may be
>what's
>needed. Also the bootcamps might have saved me from a lot of those failing
>attempts.
>
> I'm shooting for another try in about 6 weeks.
>
> I have taken the 2 day and the one day, and without exception, every
>time I go back it gets harder. The old timers on this list that say the 2
>day lab was the last time it was hard can take it from me that it is much
>harder now. How about you old timers that complain let your cert expire and
>try it doing it all over again. Even the written is harder now. 3 hour test
>and $300.
> I should'nt be typing this crap, I should be studying. I have never
>contributed until now, you wouldn't want any technical advice from a 7 time
>loser anyway. But I think this thread was started to see if anyone out here
>has been failing and I sure fit the bill.
> Good luck to all.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
>nettable_walker@comcast.net
>Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:15 AM
>To: bob_arthurs@hotmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Cc: dvrgas@yahoo.com; dvargas@conres.com
>Subject: CCIE lab attempts...
>
>
>I personally know a guy who passed on the 9th try.
>(I never ask but I have to ASSUME he was not paying for the attemts out of
>pocket)
>I know several who went 4 or 5 times.
>I also know 4 who passed on the 1st try (3 of them the "old" two day lab,
>one a
>few months ago)
>
>I think an avarage of 3 is probably correct.
>
>Richard
>
>//
> > hi guys
> >
> > i know that the average number of lab attempts is 3 (i think) but does
> > anybody know the record for the number of attempts before passing (or
>giving
> > up)?
> >
> > i'm just curious...i think people who fail a number of times and still
> > continue (and don't give up) to be pretty inspirational.
> >
> > so...anybody know ?
> >
> > thanks
> >
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