From: Larry Letterman (lletterm@cisco.com)
Date: Tue Jul 22 2003 - 04:19:35 GMT-3
Larry,
Don't feel so bad, some of the people I know at cisco
Here had to do it 4 times or more and we have all the
Lab stuff to play with...so you are not alone...
Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Larry Sinclair
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 10:35 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: CCIE lab attempts...
I have taken it 7 times and have recently had to retake the written. The
first time I was forced to take it by my company. The second time I knew
I was'nt ready but I waited to cancel until it was too late and took it
because my company was still paying. The 3rd time I had finally learned
OSPF and thought I might get lucky. (CCIE is not luck). The 4th time a
friend of mine gave me his lab and I was able to fail it for free. The
5th time was the first time on the 1 day lab and the last time it was
paid for. The 6th time I was unemployed a week before and had to pay
myself (My company went bankrupt). The last time I was really ready (I
thought) and got burned on unexpected things that NDA will not let me go
into (I went into panic mode immediately and even messed up IGP).
Why can't I pass the lab?
1. I'm not the smartest person that ever attempted it.
2. I am less than one year from being 50. Let's be honest, age doesn't
help speed or retention, (but it does bring a better attitude). 3. I
never had any training. I've been attempting all from books and the
website. 4. I am not in a study group, except for the last 3 months on
this list. (It's great!) 5. I have a family(kids) and all that stuff (6
dogs, a bird, cat, chickens, etc...). 6. I am not putting all my spare
time into it like I should. 7. I do not have a complete practice lab. 8.
I let all the above excuses be excuses.
Will I ever pass?
Maybe not, but I will be going again as soon as I can get up the
money and drive 1280 miles in my no air conditioned 170,000 mile
mini-van (from Houston, TX to RTP). I sleep in truck stops. I guess this
is my hobby(failing). My friends and family think I should give up and
spend my time and money more productively (My wife does back me, but I
know she would rather back me if I was doing something else that was
cheaper).
Advice from me; Don't do as I did. I think study partners may be
what's needed. Also the bootcamps might have saved me from a lot of
those failing attempts.
I'm shooting for another try in about 6 weeks.
I have taken the 2 day and the one day, and without exception, every
time I go back it gets harder. The old timers on this list that say the
2 day lab was the last time it was hard can take it from me that it is
much harder now. How about you old timers that complain let your cert
expire and try it doing it all over again. Even the written is harder
now. 3 hour test and $300.
I should'nt be typing this crap, I should be studying. I have never
contributed until now, you wouldn't want any technical advice from a 7
time loser anyway. But I think this thread was started to see if anyone
out here has been failing and I sure fit the bill.
Good luck to all.
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
nettable_walker@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:15 AM
To: bob_arthurs@hotmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Cc: dvrgas@yahoo.com; dvargas@conres.com
Subject: CCIE lab attempts...
I personally know a guy who passed on the 9th try.
(I never ask but I have to ASSUME he was not paying for the attemts out
of
pocket)
I know several who went 4 or 5 times.
I also know 4 who passed on the 1st try (3 of them the "old" two day
lab, one a few months ago)
I think an avarage of 3 is probably correct.
Richard
//
> hi guys
>
> i know that the average number of lab attempts is 3 (i think) but does
> anybody know the record for the number of attempts before passing (or
giving
> up)?
>
> i'm just curious...i think people who fail a number of times and still
> continue (and don't give up) to be pretty inspirational.
>
> so...anybody know ?
>
> thanks
>
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