From: boby2kusa@hotmail.com
Date: Thu Jul 03 2003 - 20:17:50 GMT-3
3500XL and 2900XL can only have one vlan interface at a time but sure you
can shut down the intervlan if you want:
3548XL#sh ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) C3500XL Software (C3500XL-C3H2S-M), Version 12.0(5)WC7, RELEASE
SOFTWAR
E (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-2003 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Wed 05-Mar-03 09:59 by antonino
Image text-base: 0x00003000, data-base: 0x0034DEE8
ROM: Bootstrap program is C3500XL boot loader
Interface IP-Address OK? Method Status
Prot
ocol
VLAN1 10.1.1.2 YES manual administratively down
down
VLAN200 20.1.1.1 YES manual administratively down
down
As you can they are both admin shut down. So, you can shut them down.
----- Original Message -----
From: "MADMAN" <dave@interprise.com>
To: "John Matijevic" <matijevi@bellsouth.net>
Cc: "Jung, Jin" <jin.jung@lmco.com>; "SHARMA,MOHIT (HP-Germany,ex1)"
<mohit.sharma@hp.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Switchin Basics
> John Matijevic wrote:
> > cat1(config)#vlan 1
> > cat1(config-vlan)#shut
> > Command is only allowed on VLAN 2..1001.
> > cat1(config-vlan)#
> >
> > Hello Team,
> >
> > The above is what I was illustrating.
> >
> > sincerely,
> >
> > Matijevic
>
> I don't know what switch your using or what IOS it is running but I
> do know at one time you had to use VLAN 1 for management, you could not
> shut it down. That really sucked and many complained so Cisco added the
> capability to make another VLAN the management VLAN but to do this you
> had to shutdown VLAN 1. This was a 3500/2900 phnomenon as far as I recall
>
> Dave
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jung, Jin" <jin.jung@lmco.com>
> > To: "'MADMAN'" <dave@interprise.com>; "John Matijevic"
> > <matijevi@bellsouth.net>
> > Cc: "SHARMA,MOHIT (HP-Germany,ex1)" <mohit.sharma@hp.com>;
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 2:03 PM
> > Subject: RE: Switchin Basics
> >
> >
> >
> >>I agree, Sure you can shut down VLAN1, why not..
> >>
> >>
> >>I do this for 2924, 6500, ...
> >>
> >>And for 3550, if you have IP address one the VLAN interface and you can
> >>access the switch via telnet, and Yes that is the management VLAN,
> >>
> >>You do not have to put command "management" under VLAN interface, like
> >
> > some
> >
> >>older switches.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Jin jung...
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: MADMAN [mailto:dave@interprise.com]
> >>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 1:31 PM
> >>To: John Matijevic
> >>Cc: SHARMA,MOHIT (HP-Germany,ex1); ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >>Subject: Re: Switchin Basics
> >>
> >>
> >>John Matijevic wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hi Mohit,
> >>>You cannot shutdown the management vlan, vlan1, try it. I would not
> >>>spend to much time on this just realize that vlan1 is the default
> >>>management vlan. If there is something more that the question is
> >>>asking please post it here. Sincerely, Matijevic
> >>
> >> OK I'll accept your challenge since I know I can shut down VLAN 1, it
> >>is how I access a 3512XL in the lab!!!
> >>
> >>interface VLAN1
> >> no ip address
> >> no ip directed-broadcast
> >> shutdown
> >>!
> >>interface VLAN64
> >> ip address 172.28.64.4 255.255.255.0
> >> no ip directed-broadcast
> >> ip nat outside
> >>!
> >> VLAN 64 is the inband management VLAN.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "SHARMA,MOHIT (HP-Germany,ex1)" <mohit.sharma@hp.com>
> >>>To: "'John Matijevic'" <matijevi@bellsouth.net>;
> >>
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >
> >>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:09 PM
> >>>Subject: RE: Switchin Basics
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hi John,
> >>>>
> >>>>thanx for the followup, but what would then be exactly "the management
> >>>>vlan"", If vlan 1 is shutdown and as Jonathan said there could be a
> >>>>number of SVI's. How would the switch decide, which one to consider
> >>>>the
> >>>
> >>>management
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>vlan?Or is it like the default vlan the default management vlan is
> >>>>always "1" ??
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: John Matijevic [mailto:matijevi@bellsouth.net]
> >>>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:58 PM
> >>>>To: Jonathan V Hays; 'SHARMA,MOHIT (HP-Germany,ex1)';
> >>>>
> >>>>Subject: Re: Switchin Basics
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Hello Team,
> >>>>I politely disagree with Jonathan in the following:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>However, on the Catalyst 3550 you can have multiple "management"
> >>>>>VLANs.
> >>>>
> >>>>my answer is:
> >>>>Only one management VLAN can be administratively active at a time.
> >>>>
> >>>>also,
> >>>>You cant change the default vlan 1.
> >>>>
> >>>>As a followup note:
> >>>>Management interfaces and vlans is documented in the 3550 admin guide.
> >>>
> >>>The
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>management interface communicates with the switch ip address. The ip
> >>>
> >>>address
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>is associated with the management vlan. You can only have one
> >>>
> > management
> >
> >>>>vlan at a time. The management vlan is the vlan used to manage the
> >>>>switch, so when you add a vlan and assign an ip address, that vlan
> >>>>communicates
> >>>
> >>>with
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>the management vlan.
> >>>>Hopefully this helps clarify,
> >>>>Sincerely,
> >>>>Matijevic
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "Jonathan V Hays" <jhays@jtan.com>
> >>>>To: "'SHARMA,MOHIT (HP-Germany,ex1)'" <mohit.sharma@hp.com>;
> >>>><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >>>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:17 AM
> >>>>Subject: RE: Switchin Basics
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>See below.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> >>>>>>Of SHARMA,MOHIT (HP-Germany,ex1)
> >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 7:22 AM
> >>>>>>To: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
> >>>>>>Subject: RE: Switchin Basics
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Hi all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I know this may sound like a really stupid question from a guy
> >>>>>>preparing for the esteemed exam, but could someone please take out
> >>>>>>some time to enmlighten
> >>>>>>me. I really need to get this basics clear.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Smiles,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Mohit.
> >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>From: SHARMA,MOHIT (HP-Germany,ex1) [mailto:mohit.sharma@hp.com]
> >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:54 AM
> >>>>>>To: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
> >>>>>>Subject: Switchin Basics
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Hi All,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>This may sound like one of the basic questions for switching,
> >>>>>>however I just tried these on my newly acquired 3550's and am really
> >>>>>>confused.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>1.> If asked to change the default VLAN, how does it work? I have
> >>>>>>tried using the default vlan <x> command, but when I do sh vlan it
> >>>>>>always gives me
> >>>>>>the default vlan as 1. First I thought that after giving this
command
> >>>>>>changing the names would do the trick but it still allocates
> >>>>>>the unused
> >>>>>>ports to VLAN 1 :(
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>****
> >>>>>The default VLAN on an unconfigured Cisco switch is VLAN 1. I don't
> >>>>>think this can be changed. For an unconfigured switch, it simply
> >>>>>means that by default all ports are a member of VLAN 1. I suppose the
> >>>>>programmers could have alternatively assigned all ports to no VLAN at
> >>>>>all, which would have forced the sysadmin to assign a VLAN to a port
> >>>>>before using the switch. With a default of VLAN 1 on all ports, you
> >>>>>can turn on the switch and immediately plug in ethernet cables and
> >>>>>start using the switch.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I think your lab scenario is really asking you to assign ports to
> >>>>>different VLANs. Or maybe to assign a new management VLAN by creating
> >>>>>a new switched virtual interface (SVI). See below.
> >>>>>****
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>2.> What does management interface mean. If I have a number of VLAN
> >>>>>>interfaces with IP address configured, how does the switch decide,
> >>>>>>which one is the management interface???IS it the default VLAN again
> >>>>>>at play???
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>****
> >>>>>Older IOS-type switches (e.g., 2900/3550XL, 2950, etc.) only allowed
> >>>>>one "management" VLAN. For example, to shut down VLAN 1 as the
> >>>>>management VLAN on a 2900/3500 XL switch you used the "management"
> >>>>>command.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>However, on the Catalyst 3550 you can have multiple "management"
> >>>>>VLANs. (Cisco does not use the term "management" very often in the
> >>>>>3550 configuration guide.) To do this, you just create anther SVI
> >>>>>with the "int vlan XXX" command. To disable VLAN 1 as a "management"
> >>>>>VLAN:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>int vlan 1
> >>>>>shutdown
> >>>>>
> >>>>>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c3550/12113ea1/35
> >>>>>50s
> >>>>>cg/swint.htm#1026951
> >>>>>
> >>>>><quote>
> >>>>>By default, an SVI is created for the default VLAN (VLAN 1) to permit
> >>>>>remote switch administration. Additional SVIs must be explicitly
> >>>>>configured. In Layer 2 mode, SVIs provide IP host connectivity only
> >>>>>to the system; in Layer 3 mode, you can configure routing across
> >>>>>SVIs. </quote>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>HTH
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Jonathan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>****
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Thanks as always for showing me the light :)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Smiles,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Mohit.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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