From: Charles Church (cchurch@wamnet.com)
Date: Thu Jun 05 2003 - 09:22:12 GMT-3
I'm not saying it's not a great resource. But I'm trying to stress that
it's no replacement for studying. Certainly using it for obscure DLSW
options is OK, but if you're searching the CD for information on how to
summarize OSPF or configure route-reflectors, you might as well walk out.
You need to know the core topics (IGPs) inside and out. Of course, we all
work at our own pace, so some of us may have a few extra hours at the end,
so spending a whole hour with the CD might be OK. But I'm willing to guess
that on average, the time is pretty tight. I know on my failed attempts, I
could have used another hour. But like Scott says, know where stuff is on
it.
Chuck Church
CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
Wam!Net Government Services
13665 Dulles Technology Dr. Ste 250
Herndon, VA 20171
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-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:09 PM
To: 'Charles Church'; sustundag@tepum.com.tr; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Documentation CD usage and influence to score
I disagree with that. The Doc CD is a great resource to have. HOW you
spend your time on it is directly proportional to how well you know its
layout and contents. Just because you know what an access expression is
for and remembering the exact syntax are two completely different
things.
The Doc CD is good to jog your memory. Everything in the lab is about
recall, not rote memorization. (If you do it that way, you'll forget it
all within weeks)
On the other hand, I wouldn't really say that it influences your score
at all. If so, I musta received a lot of negative points in my C&S lab.
But I can't see how that would add in! The concept of being an expert
(that E in CCIE) has to do not just with what you know, but how you work
under pressure and how you derive solutions in not-always
straightforward requirements.
You should have PLENTY of time to verify whatever you want on the CD.
Your familiarity (note: not memorization or rote regurgitation) with
different configuration scenarios should lead you to make a choice
within short order. Whether you use the Doc CD or the "?" to help you
fill in the blanks of config shouldn't matter.
If you work a lot on different platforms, or sometimes even between
different revs of IOS, you're not going to be able to memorize
everything anyway.
Just know HOW to use the Doc CD.
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Charles Church
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 9:53 PM
To: sustundag@tepum.com.tr; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: Documentation CD usage and influence to score
The amount that you use the CD in the lab has no direct affect on your
score. Indirectly it does, because if you rely on it too much, you're
probably using too much of your precious time. There will always be a
couple questions on the lab that are really obscure, and need to be
looked up. 10 to 15 minutes searching the CD the whole day is probably
an acceptable amount.
Chuck Church
CCIE #8776, MCNE, MCSE
Wam!Net Government Services
13665 Dulles Technology Dr. Ste 250
Herndon, VA 20171
Office: 703-480-2569
Cell: 585-233-2706
cchurch@wamnet.com
PGP key:
http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=chuck+church&op=index
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
sustundag@tepum.com.tr
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:22 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Documentation CD usage and influence to score
Hi Group
I am wondering that Documentation CD usage influences to LAB score I
mean i suppose proctors monitors whole lab session (if not please write
) and because of my memory not well i think i will check some command
syntax`s frequently And suppose that i done well for that section (etc
bgp section) Is there a score that added to total lab score.I mean they
migth me think that CCIE wouldn`t need to count on DOC cd too much Any
thoughts will be appreciated Regards
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