From: iron_tri (iron_tri@msn.com)
Date: Sun May 04 2003 - 17:06:30 GMT-3
Kind of an open-ended question. What type of work would you like to do
after completing the certification process? What kind of work were you
doing before achieving the certification? Personally, I negotiated lab
attempts and a raise with my current employer as part of my hiring contract.
Anything is possible and keep the following in mind:
1. Employers may or may not value the CCIE certification as much as they
used to in the past. It's not outdated, but it is getting easier to find
quality talent that may or may not have the same certification. Along those
lines, let's not start some useless thread about certification value, etc.
I think that anyone reading this is smart enough to watch the market
conditions as well as paying attention to certain industry trends.
2. You will make more money with a specialization, and you will be worth
even more money if you have experience with that specialization and can
provide solid references as proof. If you have installed 750 Cisco IP
phones, and the customer is willing to give you a good reference, then you
could command (in my opinion, in other words, this is what I would ask for
if I were the engineer in the example) $110 - $125 in base and possibly some
incentives....that's with the CCIE certification. CCNP/CCDP with that
experience would probably command $85 - $100 in base. That's what I have
seen in the market. Specialization will be your key. R&S was a
specialization some time ago, but not so much today. There are still some
higher paying jobs for R&S in large call-centers, and within large IT
organizations; but you will still want to move into management in those
situations to get the higher salaries...in my opinion. Again, don't start a
thread about me undervaluing the cert. The jobs are still there, but harder
to find now that it is a buyer's market.
3. Cisco Channel Partners, especially the Gold Partners, always evaluate
CCIEs just because it helps their certification with Cisco and their image.
Pre-Sales typically pays more than Post-Sales, and most partners require you
to have lots of Post-Sales experience before moving into a Pre-Sales role,
at least the partner that is my employer requires at least 2-years of
Post-Sales work including references for proof.
If I were you, I would attack the salary issue with more than just, "What I
am worth now that I am a CCIE?" I would approach it along the lines of
figuring out your future, and then the salary should fall into line with
your goals and achievements.
Good Luck.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wright, Jeremy" <wright@admworld.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Cc: <security@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 9:50 AM
Subject: salary resources
> I'm looking for information on what salary I should receive in my region
> after completing my CCIE R/S. I know it's specific to my own experience
but
> I'm looking basically for baseline numbers. I've used monster.com,
> salary.com, zdnet.com, and some of the others. Any suggestions would be
> appreciated...thanks!
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