From: Huynh Ngoc Tan (hntan@saigontel.com)
Date: Fri Apr 04 2003 - 04:13:19 GMT-3
Hi all,
I think Cisco should change its way of grading. Configuration must be
printed out and signature must be taken. Anyone who "dare" to apply the
Lab test will completely understand what level of his knowledge is.
Especially in this case , it is his 2nd attempt, right ?
-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike Williams" <ccie2be@swbell.net>
To: "'Nguyen Hoang Long'" <ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:41:46 -0600
Subject: RE: Lab re-score ? has Cisco ever made any serious mistake ?
> Long,
>
> I would have to agree with you that should (or does) have a system in
> place for matching the configs to the test taker. Seems to me, if
> nothing else, than for legal reasons they can match a candidate and
> their answers and their scores. That's a very interesting idea to have
> everyone print out the configs and have a signature from the candidate
> and the proctor as to their ownership.
>
> But, unfortunately, I don't see Cisco doing that. They could also
> provide a complete graded version of your configs to show you for sure
> why your score is what it is. But I don't see that coming anytime
> either.
>
> Mike W.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Nguyen Hoang Long
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:48 PM
> To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Lab re-score ? has Cisco ever made any serious mistake ?
>
>
> I have known that kind of Cisco's Lab behaviour & have worked with
> comon
> Lab scenarios books for quite a long time.
>
> There's no way to verify that the configs, which they do grade for me,
> is really my configs; And there's no problem with hardware/software
> malfuntions, which can cause my config in some router/switch blank.
>
> I think of all of serious way which can make serious diferrence.
>
> If the Exam permited everyone print-out all configs & have signatures
> on
> it before leaving the Lab room, just make sure 100% "it is" .I would be
> satisfied when fail.
>
> Long.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andre Teku" <andre.teku@csosa.gov>
> To: "'Nguyen Hoang Long'" <ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 6:10 AM
> Subject: RE: Lab re-score ? has Cisco ever made any serious mistake ?
>
>
> > Hi Nguyen,
> >
> > Did you do EVERYTHING the CISCO WAY???? Believe me, there is a "CISCO
> > way" of handling/configuring labs and you must find that out. One
> > more thing, someone in a not-too-distant past wrote on this forum
> that
>
> > the CCIE lab
> test
> > is "60% INTERPRETATION and 40% CONFIGURATION". I believe this to be
> > true. For most questions, the requirements are somewhat nebulous,
> > with clues interspersed here and there - You must read everything
> very
>
> > carefully and ask the proctor when things aren't clear enough. Of
> > course doing this also cut down on your time...
> >
> > Anyway, "Hang in there" and just concentrate on your next shot.
> >
> > Andre T.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nguyen Hoang Long [mailto:ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:10 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Lab re-score ? has Cisco ever made any serious mistake ?
> >
> >
> > Hi Group,
> >
> > I just failed my lab, although that's quite a shock for me, but more
> > than that is the score of only about 40% with three portions came up
> > with ZERO % Having almost 4 hours for double check this time, already
> > taking my 1st attempt is 3 months ago, so let's not talk about things
> > such as Lab's english
> > wordings, Behaviour of Grading system,......, I'm familiar with those
> !
> >
> > What I'm having doubts here is if Cisco has ever made any serious
> > mistake (like mistake my Lab with someone other, mistake in
> retrieving
>
> > process for some router's config,..... any that can make significant
> > diferrences)
> >
> > There's no way to verify that without requesting for a re-grade.
> > But...Someone told me regrading Lab is just a wast of money,
> > especially
> with
> > my very low score.
> >
> > Anyone has experience, I'm seeking your advice.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> >
> > Rgds,
> > Long.
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