From: Huynh Ngoc Tan (hntan@saigontel.com)
Date: Fri Apr 04 2003 - 05:27:49 GMT-3
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> From: "Huynh Ngoc Tan" <hntan@saigontel.com>
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> Subject: RE: Lab re-score ? has Cisco ever made any serious mistake ?
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> Hi all,
>
> I think Cisco should change its way of grading. Configuration must be
> printed out and signature must be taken. Anyone who "dare" to apply the
> Lab test will completely understand what level of his knowledge is.
> Especially in this case , it is his 2nd attempt, right ?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Mike Williams" <ccie2be@swbell.net>
> To: "'Nguyen Hoang Long'" <ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn>,
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 21:41:46 -0600
> Subject: RE: Lab re-score ? has Cisco ever made any serious mistake ?
>
> > Long,
> >
> > I would have to agree with you that should (or does) have a system in
> > place for matching the configs to the test taker. Seems to me, if
> > nothing else, than for legal reasons they can match a candidate and
> > their answers and their scores. That's a very interesting idea to
> have
> > everyone print out the configs and have a signature from the
> candidate
> > and the proctor as to their ownership.
> >
> > But, unfortunately, I don't see Cisco doing that. They could also
> > provide a complete graded version of your configs to show you for
> sure
> > why your score is what it is. But I don't see that coming anytime
> > either.
> >
> > Mike W.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > Nguyen Hoang Long
> > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 6:48 PM
> > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > Subject: Re: Lab re-score ? has Cisco ever made any serious mistake ?
> >
> >
> > I have known that kind of Cisco's Lab behaviour & have worked with
> > comon
> > Lab scenarios books for quite a long time.
> >
> > There's no way to verify that the configs, which they do grade for
> me,
> > is really my configs; And there's no problem with hardware/software
> > malfuntions, which can cause my config in some router/switch blank.
> >
> > I think of all of serious way which can make serious diferrence.
> >
> > If the Exam permited everyone print-out all configs & have signatures
> > on
> > it before leaving the Lab room, just make sure 100% "it is" .I would
> be
> > satisfied when fail.
> >
> > Long.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andre Teku" <andre.teku@csosa.gov>
> > To: "'Nguyen Hoang Long'" <ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn>
> > Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 6:10 AM
> > Subject: RE: Lab re-score ? has Cisco ever made any serious mistake ?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Nguyen,
> > >
> > > Did you do EVERYTHING the CISCO WAY???? Believe me, there is a
> "CISCO
> > > way" of handling/configuring labs and you must find that out. One
> > > more thing, someone in a not-too-distant past wrote on this forum
> > that
> >
> > > the CCIE lab
> > test
> > > is "60% INTERPRETATION and 40% CONFIGURATION". I believe this to be
> > > true. For most questions, the requirements are somewhat nebulous,
> > > with clues interspersed here and there - You must read everything
> > very
> >
> > > carefully and ask the proctor when things aren't clear enough. Of
> > > course doing this also cut down on your time...
> > >
> > > Anyway, "Hang in there" and just concentrate on your next shot.
> > >
> > > Andre T.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nguyen Hoang Long [mailto:ng-hlong@hn.vnn.vn]
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:10 PM
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: Lab re-score ? has Cisco ever made any serious mistake ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Group,
> > >
> > > I just failed my lab, although that's quite a shock for me, but
> more
> > > than that is the score of only about 40% with three portions came
> up
> > > with ZERO % Having almost 4 hours for double check this time,
> already
> > > taking my 1st attempt is 3 months ago, so let's not talk about
> things
> > > such as Lab's english
> > > wordings, Behaviour of Grading system,......, I'm familiar with
> those
> > !
> > >
> > > What I'm having doubts here is if Cisco has ever made any serious
> > > mistake (like mistake my Lab with someone other, mistake in
> > retrieving
> >
> > > process for some router's config,..... any that can make
> significant
> > > diferrences)
> > >
> > > There's no way to verify that without requesting for a re-grade.
> > > But...Someone told me regrading Lab is just a wast of money,
> > > especially
> > with
> > > my very low score.
> > >
> > > Anyone has experience, I'm seeking your advice.
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance
> > >
> > > Rgds,
> > > Long.
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