From: Lupi, Guy (Guy.Lupi@eurekaggn.com)
Date: Fri Sep 27 2002 - 10:46:57 GMT-3
In regards to Howard's original post, I would never place my business in the
hands of a company that was not willing to give general information about
transit and peering. I imagine this company is not one of the "tier 1"
providers due to your concern about their connectivity.
If the company is small, I would not do business with them unless they are
willing to give you general information about their peering/transit
arrangements and network. I would not expect details, but you should be
able to get enough information to give you the warm and fuzzy. Things like
who they purchase transit from and at what speed, and if they have private
peering arrangements who are they with and at what speed. If the
information you get gives you a good feeling about a provider, then why not?
A lot of small providers have excellent networks, good technical staff, and
are willing to go that extra mile to get a customers business that sometimes
a larger provider will not.
Another concern that I would have regardless of the size of the company is
their financial status, particularly if you are going to be assigned IP
address space out of a block that is assigned to them by ARIN, there is no
guarantee that in the event the company is acquired out of bankruptcy the
acquiring entity will want to continue to provide service to you.
Generally, a prospering company that is acquired will continue to service
it's customers, since the business is probably prospering and bringing in
money for the acquirer. Hopefully you can justify ARIN space and this is
not a concern for you. You can always get bandwidth quickly, renumbering
out of a large address space is very time consuming though. A lot of
factors to consider here, good luck!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:clarson52@comcast.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:36 PM
To: Howard Heywood; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: BGP - Peering
As a side note to my previous post on this topic. I do not know why Cisco is
not marketing their METRO line to medium and large enterprises just as much
as they do the carriers. The potential for savings in the enterprise by
consolidating links and services is great and will pay for the equipment and
still save. A Cisco ONS box with 1:1 OC-12 protected cards, 1:1 protected
OC-3, 6 port DS-3 and 14 T-1 ports card with the XTC and all the
monitoring cards is less then a 6500 with dual supes.
You can also run ethernet over sonet and or do RPR. This to can save money
and you can extend Vlan info accross the WAN. This can have many benefits,
one of them is to build clusters where the primary is at one site and the
secondary at a failover site (of course you need data replication). This is
only one of many uses and possibilities.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Heywood" <hheywood@hotmail.com>
To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 3:50 PM
Subject: OT: BGP - Peering
> Hi guys/girls. Just a quick question to those of you who have purchased
> high speed Internet services, or who have an opinion on the purchase of
> these services. If you are buying a high speed Intenet service (let's say
> OC3 for example) how important is it for you to know about the carrier's
> infrastructure? Specifically, do you care who they peer with and who they
> use for transit? If you asked a carrier for this information and they
> declined to give it to you, would it have a significant impact on your
> decision whether to do business with the carrier? Comments or a ranking
> out of 10 would be appreciated. 10 Being more important. Thanks Howard
> Heywood Note to admin: Not my "registered" email account. Sorry if this
> causes headaches.
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