Re: My lab experience

From: jennifer_bellucci@hotmail.com
Date: Fri Sep 04 1998 - 03:56:16 GMT-3


Hi, Does it really matter? The NDA is there and that is that. Picking up on
minor issues just brings other questions that are generally not important.
Prepare for the test and sit it. Pass and then move on. More technical
irritations would be welcome.

Sorry if I cause any offence, just my opinion.
Nice to meet you Craig.
Jennifer_bellucci@hotmail.com
----- Original Message -----
Wrom: ADRZFSQHYUCDDJBLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWT
To: "David Wolsefer" <DWolsefer@totality.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:56 PM
Subject: RE: My lab experience

> Paul is right in every assessment.
>
> At 12:25 PM 6/25/2002 -0400, David Wolsefer wrote:
> >There is no question about it. This is a black and white violation. Here
is
> >the test from my score report:
> >
>
>***************************************************************************
*
> >THIS SCORE REPORT SHOULD NOT BE FORWARDED, IT IS INTENDED FOR
INFORMATIONAL
> >PURPOSES ONLY BY THE CANDIDATE, AND IT IS A NDA VIOLATION TO SHARE IT.
>
>***************************************************************************
*
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Wrom: QTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJSNBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJP
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 11:56 AM
> >To: McCallum, Robert; 'Paul'; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> >Subject: Re: My lab experience
> >
> >
> >How is discussing your score report a violation? As long as you don't
cover
> >any portion of the test you are still in good standing. If I tell someone
I
> >scored 8% on BGP how is that violating the NDA!? It isn't, it is only
> >telling someone how poorly I did on a particular section. A violation of
the
> >NDA would be releasing any information related to the exam itself. If he
was
> >to ask a question that was specifically on his lab, then that would be a
> >violation, simply sharing percentages is not!
> >
> >-c
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >Wrom: HSCRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZOWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMS
> >To: "'Paul'" <sixfooter777@btopenworld.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 8:16 AM
> >Subject: RE: My lab experience
> >
> >
> > > You do know that discussing your score report in anyway is a violation
of
> >the NDA !!
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Wrom: FDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGME
> > > Sent: 25 June 2002 15:53
> > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Subject: My lab experience
> > >
> > >
> > > I took my lab yesterday in Brussels. It was my first go and
unfortunately
> >I
> > > didn't make it thru. However I think it's a good thing for hopefully
some
> >of
> > > you who are awaiting you lab date and also myself to say a few words
about
> > > the lab itself.
> > >
> > > Like other posts I have read, the lab is very much doable and yes time
is
> >a
> > > factor but not as much as you might think. I personally had a couple
of
> > > hours spare to revisit a few things and find a few more mistakes I had
> >made.
> > >
> > > The test itself is more about not what they ask you to do but what
they
> > > don't ask you to do and apparently as long as you don't do something
they
> > > forbid you to do and it works then that's fine.
> > >
> > > The proctor I had in Brussels was a good guy and had a good attitude
which
> > > was "there's your booklet, get on with it" and they left you alone
which
> >was
> > > fine.
> > >
> > > Now my whinge. The scoring on the exam is in points and there are
> >sections.
> > > The results you get for each section are in percentages. OK, you can
> >roughly
> > > convert points into percentages but to me, the whole marking system is
a
> >big
> > > grey area and one that Cisco really need to address. On the 2-day lab
I
> > > would have had some idea on where I would have gone wrong. Now, I am
> >totally
> > > in the dark. For example, I thought I'd got the Dial section 100 per
cent
> > > but I get 60 per cent. Why ? I will never know. Show me any book or
> > > experiences that will help me here. It seems that another factor in
the
> >lab
> > > exam is insider knowledge and that is wrong. With the majority of
> >candidates
> > > I suspect financing their lab exam privately and without the help of
> > > expensive training sources ( just by private lab practice ), many of
us
> >are
> > > at a disservice.
> > >
> > > I hate to say it but it seems the CCIE is more about who you know than
> >what
> > > you know and that's why I won't probably continue on this path because
I
> > > don't have deep pockets but for all of you that aspire, good luck.
> > >
> > > Paul.
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