From: David (wicked01@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Aug 08 2002 - 14:12:05 GMT-3
you electronically signed an NDA for the written test...if you didnt take
the written test, why are you even on this list?
At 05:31 PM 1/24/1999 +0000, Omar Masood wrote:
>thank you for defining the truth, I not certified yet, so I don't think the
>non-disclosures concerns me yet.
>**Omar Masood 360**
>
>e/m: omarmasood360@hotmail.com
>or: omarmasood@aol.com
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jeff K" <Jeffbk@austin.rr.com>
>To: <omarmasood360@hotmail.com>; "CCIE FUN" <ccieexam2002@yahoo.com>; "Immo,
>Paul" <PImmo@CTITELE.COM>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 4:24 PM
>Subject: Re: OT: RE: Dark rivers of the heart?
>
>
> > As this is somewhat of a religious arguement, I try to avoid even getting
> > involved... But, come on, do you expect everyone to stop pursuing their
> > CCIE because you got your number? As far as number of certifications go,
>I
> > got my number (8007) August 14, 2001. Rick got his number (9482) on June
> > 11, 2002. So, over an approximate 10 month period, that is about 150
> > certifications / month. I'm not saying that is a linear trend (I know
>there
> > are variables here like 9/11 and the two-day to one-day change) -- I have
>no
> > desire to look at the data that much. Anyway, Cisco contends that the
>CCIE
> > is a way to identify people with a certain level of expertise with their
> > hardware / software and various networking concepts. They don't promise
>it
> > to be the solution to all your problems, nor do they promise you the
> > greatest jobs making the most money. True, some people get the CCIE who
> > really shouldn't. This happens in every area. Don't try to say that
> > everyone with a college degree is an expert in their field. And, there
>are
> > people out there willing to cheat to ge the cert. Once again, this is not
>a
> > problem unique to the CCIE. It is up to us to make the decision to do it
> > the right way and to notify the program when we find out about this stuff.
> > It is really in our hands to keep the value of the CCIE high. BTW, did
>you
> > report the guy who had 4 versions of the RS lab booklet? You are pretty
> > much obligated to do so...
> >
> > One last thing, once we hit 5-digits, that still means there are about
>9000
> > CCIE numbers that have been issued worldwide. Subtract those who aren't
> > current, not working in the field, etc. and it's a much smaller number --
> > still a pretty elite group, I'd say.
> >
> > Good luck to all those still pursuing their CCIE,
> >
> > -Jeff., CCIE 8007
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <omarmasood360@hotmail.com>
> > To: "CCIE FUN" <ccieexam2002@yahoo.com>; "Immo, Paul" <PImmo@CTITELE.COM>;
> > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 11:33 AM
> > Subject: Re: OT: RE: Dark rivers of the heart?
> >
> >
> > > I don't make the figures, Cisco do, do you really think they tell the
> > public
> > > everything? All comes out int the annual reports only. See for ur self.
> > > Cisco along with Microsoft,Oracle and Juniper are companies that
> > specialise
> > > in 'generalisation personalisation'. Look around, I have heard from a
>very
> > > reliable source that he had 4 different variations of RS lab booklet for
> > the
> > > lab - before he sat the exam - he passed with a very high score. Look up
> > > what a public must do to stay public. business is business, right?
> > >
> > > **Omar Masood 360**
> > >
> > > e/m: omarmasood360@hotmail.com
> > > or: omarmasood@aol.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > Wrom: OKSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJSNBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAI
> > > To: "Immo, Paul" <PImmo@CTITELE.COM>; "'Omar Masood'"
> > > <omarmasood360@hotmail.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:22 PM
> > > Subject: Re: OT: RE: Dark rivers of the heart?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Interesting ......
> > > > but i don't think that is a valid figure
> > > > --- "Immo, Paul" <PImmo@CTITELE.COM> wrote:
> > > > > Where are you getting your figures?
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul M. Immo CCDP, CCNP, MCSE
> > > > >
> > > > > CTI Telecom
> > > > >
> > > > > Sr. Solution Engineer
> > > > >
> > > > > Tel: 703-834-1538
> > > > >
> > > > > Cell: 703-930-5724
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > Wrom: JJPHSCRTNHGSWZIDREXCAXZOWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXXIMQ
> > > > >
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 1999 10:29 AM
> > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > Subject: Dark rivers of the heart?
> > > > >
> > > > > With now a reported 100 CCIEs being certified every
> > > > > 10 days...is it still
> > > > > the
> > > > > same certification Cisco have us believe? Think
> > > > > about it, 100 IEs in such a
> > > > > short period of time.
> > > > >
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