From: Andre Teku (andre.teku@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Aug 08 2002 - 13:11:36 GMT-3
AMEN!!!!
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From: Meyer, J. (Johan) [mailto:JohanMe@nedcor.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 10:16 AM
To: 'syv'; Michael Snyder
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: 200 per month.1 day harder than the two day was!
I would like to take this opportunity to put in my experience regarding
this!
My first attempt at the CCIE LAB was the two day where I did exceptionally
well
in fact I got all the way to troubleshooting! Just missing it in the END!
My second attempt was the 1 Day LAB which I found extremely difficult
and failed badly!!!
My point of view is that the 1 day seems more difficult than the 2 day was!!
There are no more points for simple things like IP addressing
Terminal server, F/R Switching ,hostnames,diagrams,passwords etc. Yes
Believe it or not with the two day you got marks for these tasks!
Thus the 1 day has eliminated all the "easy" points and makes the 80 points
required to pass
this exam more intensive!
I believe the reason why the turnover seems higher is because in the past
Cisco could
only have 2 exams per week where now they can have 5 per week!At each
testing center!
Maybe you statistic boffins can work out the exact figure on that one
and make it part of the "100 CCIE's per month syndrome"
Regards
Johan Meyer
-----Original Message-----
From: syv [mailto:syv@911networks.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 6:35 AM
To: Michael Snyder
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: 200 per month.
On Wednesday, August 07, 2002, Michael Snyder wrote:
MS> Just wanted to point out that there are reasons that number is so high.
With the 1 day exam, Cisco has tripled the number of people
taking the exam, and they still are building more seats at
the RTP.
As far as I know, the failure rate is still similar to the 2
day exam, 80% +.
MS> Many people started studying early in the year 2001. Many people from
MS> that group have taken the lab more than once since 2001. Yes, our
MS> studying material has gotten better, from the sheer number of people
MS> working together at this goal. Think of NASA with 10s of thousands of
MS> people working together for a common goal.
MS> The more troublesome protocols like appletalk, atm lane, and vines were
MS> removed from the test last year, allowing us to use a more narrow focus
MS> on what was left.
MS> Groupstudy has allowed us to match wits with the lab and win. I mean
MS> this in the sense of a study group of 3000 people working together.
MS> But about the comments of cheating and nda problems. I believe it is
MS> human nature to have some degree of this, but its not the reason the
MS> pass rate is so high.
MS> I think the main reason is the competence of our members, the number of
MS> online study labs, the number of home labs. In short we have people who
MS> could design a new lab exam every morning before 7 am and give the real
MS> proctors a run for there money. We dont need cheating to pass, we got
MS> the real thing with the real equipment sitting in our living rooms.
MS> In other words, we have met the enemy and beat them. Thats why the
MS> pass rate is 200 a month.
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