RE: Dark rivers of the heart?

From: Darryl Munro (Darryl.Munro@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Aug 07 2002 - 17:16:03 GMT-3


   
All I can say to this is get hard. If you want to do CCIE because you love
networking or whatever then go ahead. If all you are worried about is that
there are other people in the World that are keen to pursue a dream also
(still less than 10K pretty low % of total earth population) then &*&*& off.
People will still be considered knowledgeable if they attain their CCIE
whether there are 1000 or 1000000 CCIE's. Everyone that has taken the lab
appreciates how hard it is (I will let you know next Tuesday) so can have a
huge amount of pride in what they have achieved and learnt along the way.
Whyy should it about money, if money is all that drives you then go and
start buying Lottery tickets every week and see how long it takes you to get
rich.

By the way look how many MCSE's there are in the world, and some as young as
10, would you give them a job, they don't even provide Creche's for those of
with kids, do you think that employers would provide nap time for their 10
year old MCSE because he missed his bloody play lunch.

-----Original Message-----
From: Omar Masood [mailto:omarmasood360@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, 25 January 1999 4:29 a.m.
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Dark rivers of the heart?

With now a reported 100 CCIEs being certified every 10 days...is it still
the
same certification Cisco have us believe? Think about it, 100 IEs in such a
short period of time.
Am I right to start presuming it is a matter of time before the
qualification
will start to loose its appeal. Surely as more people get the numbers, the
existing flaccid market will sink to more - in terms of salary. It has
always
been the case that the IE was 'regarded as the black-belt of
networking'...quote from CCO itself.

They must be joking...while the revision of the lab format to 1-day was met
with sceptic from enthusiasts, a unnumbered person like myself, even thought
it was the time Cisco wanted to flood the market. Sure, the IE is still thee
certification, but it is a matter of time before the inevitable happens
(Cisco
seem to be sending IE in the direction all numbered people fear most -
common).

Do Cisco realise their mistake and reinstate the 2-day lab with a more
intensity?

Maybe Cisco need a new mission statement; difficulty maybe there still but
the
all round knowledge is starting to dwindle. Cisco's path to creating some of
the most powerful net professionals is fading, in terms of view and opinion.
Anything common is not special, is your iron special or unique?

~Maybe, I am being a fool, thinking out of line or starting to face the
truth,
optimist or pessimist. All of the people who want this cert are surely doing
it for the pounds, dollars, yen or euro..perks or privileges. Call it what
you
want, form of survival, I want to earn the money I deserve and Cisco entices
us with into the road of IE.

Let me know your thoughts...facts, figures and anything in between.
**Omar Masood 360**

e/m: omarmasood360@hotmail.com
or: omarmasood@aol.com



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