From: adrian 36 (adrian36@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Aug 06 2002 - 15:38:25 GMT-3
What you are starting to see is the business side of IT and specifically the
CCIE status. The business justification to obtain a CCIE is for the
corresponding relationship with Cisco (read: $aving$ ie. partnership). But
now that sales are waning there is no longer the need to build this
relationship. To technical people, who understand the CCIE, the four
numbers represent dedication and knowledge, but to the business people (who
invariably make the HR decision) there may not be cost/relationship
justification to hire a high salary CCIE as opposed to someone else just as
competent but cheaper. Money does make the world go around! Remember...its
all about business.
No flames please. If you are offended by this, re-read it. The CCIE is a
great accomplishment.
>From: Michael Smith <michael.smith@neumannhomes.com>
>Reply-To: Michael Smith <michael.smith@neumannhomes.com>
>To: "'Colin Barber'" <Colin.Barber@telewest.co.uk>, ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Anti-CCIE's ?
>Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:28:29 -0500
>
>If you read the job description though, They are asking for the world.
>They
>want someone to fully redesign their infrastructure, make sure it will be
>up
>"99.999%" of the time and then design a front end for information using
>Visual Basic, as well as work as a break/fix person. I agree, maybe they
>think a CCIE would leave to soon. Maybe they don't have a clue what they
>are talking about. Or maybe the department head doesn't want to bring in
>someone better then himself.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Colin Barber [mailto:Colin.Barber@telewest.co.uk]
>Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 10:59 PM
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: RE: Anti-CCIE's ?
>
>
>Maybe the job is not challenging enough for a CCIE and the employer knows
>that a CCIE would soon look for another job, or that a CCIE would only be
>taking the job to get work whilst still looking for something better?
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jake [mailto:jakeczyz@yahoo.com]
>Sent: 06 August 2002 02:17
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>Subject: OT: Anti-CCIE's ?
>
>
>Sorry about the OT, but here's a question relevant to most of us:
>
> Why do you suppose a company would post a job and specifically say
>that
>they don't
>want to hear from any CCIE's? I'm a little surprised and outraged by this.
>Are there so
>many CCIE's in Chicago looking for work (other than yours truly) that they
>need to put
>this stipulation in the description to keep a few hundred otherwise
>unqualified CCIE's
>from flooding their recruiters' mail boxes? Has the telecom deep-6 left
>this
>field that
>damaged? Has the credential now become a liability on my resume?
>
><http://www.chicago.computerjobs.com/job_view.asp?jobid=1418164>
>
>Any thoughts?
>
>Jake
>9102
>
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