From: steven.j.nelson@xxxxxx
Date: Fri May 03 2002 - 11:13:18 GMT-3
Chris
Well said, you are spot on when you say it's not getting there that makes
you, it is the journey that you have taken to arrive.
All the best next time
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Larson, Chris (Contractor) [mailto:Chris.Larson@ed.gov]
Sent: 03 May 2002 14:15
To: 'Mark.Reyero@gecits.ge.com'; Larson, Chris (Contractor)
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: reference guide
I have a reschedule date of October 25th. RTP is still backed up 6 months.
Anyway, I think the command guides are key to my passing next time. I still
felt pretty confident when I left, or at least right on the edge. Having
done lots of the labs out there, ccboot, IPExpert, ECP, Solution etc. (and
finding some of them to be more difficult then the lab itself, alas designed
to teach not to test), reading all of the standards, Caslow, Doyle, Halabi
etc. etc. .et .al and having some good and long time experience and still
finding enough weakness to fail, I think for me a thourough review and
practice of as much of the command reference as possible is the way to go
for positively ensuring a passing score on the third attempt.
It is too bad we didn't pass. Since this is going to the list I would just
offer a couple things, and I wonder if other people have the same experience
or feel the same way. It is funny how people who are not pursuing a cert
like this react to a failure. .I am not really bummed or depressed or
anything. Slightly disappointed, but only slightly. Some of my co-workers
think or would expect that I would or should be terribly disappointed or
bummed. I find this kinda of funny and it makes me realize how awesome the
CCIE is, more so in just attempting to get it.
The lab is such a fantastic experience you know. Well, the preparation for
going at least. The amount of knowledge you gain in practicing is awesome as
well as fun, at least for me, and I am always amazed at how there are
always new things to learn, new twists or commands or ways of doing things.
Especially with frequent IOS releases, and new features. It adds good value
to the job. The goal in the end of course is to pass, but gaining all the
knowledge, and keeping up with the technology in an attempt to pass makes
failing just a thing. There is still such a huge payoff in what you get
along the way that failing the exam is just not as disappointing as it seems
it should be after all the time and effort you know. I suppose it is because
failing does not take away anything gained along the way, and the amount
gained is significant. The real value to the CCIE is not necessarily in
getting the cert, but the road to the cert. It is funny how some would try
to argue it's value in a comparitive manner for yesterday, today, or
tomorrow. The numbers I may get are a reflection on the road and that is
where the value lies, not in the numbers themselves or the test. Well, that
is my take on it anyway.
Anyway, good luck with all our studies Mark.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark.Reyero@gecits.ge.com [mailto:Mark.Reyero@gecits.ge.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 4:13 PM
To: Chris.Larson@ed.gov
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: reference guide
Chris, et al.
Looks like you and I had the same thought after taking yesterday's lab in
RTP. I found this link on cco.com (watch the wrap -- it is a looooong one!).
You'll also need a cco login...
http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/pricing?ProductFamilyId=9052
<http://www.cisco.com/cgi-bin/front.x/pricing?ProductFamilyId=9052&Page=View
CurrProdFamilyPage&ProductFamily=Documentation&Request=ViewCurrentProdPriceL
ist&PriceListId=952>
&Page=ViewCurrProdFamilyPage&ProductFamily=Documentation&Request=ViewCurrent
ProdPriceList&PriceListId=952
Basically, yes, the volumes are available from Cisco. Most Guides are $45 a
pop; most of command reference guides are $110. Or, you can simply order the
entire set for only $2200 (12.1) of $2400 (12.2) haha!!! I've also sent an
email to ciscopress inquiring as to whether they plan to publish the guides
for either 12.1 or 12.2 as they had for 12.0. No response as of yet...
I am contemplating picking up certain volumes, such as IP, WAN, Interface,
and Fundamentals. I'd probably approach it as a sort of "IOS Book of the
Month" Club. :)
BTW: I too failed yesterday on my first attempt. I am going to focus the
next week or so on wrapping up this semester of grad school & some work
projects, then jump right in again for attempt #2, hopefully in the autumn.
Best to you!
Mark Reyero
-----Original Message-----
From: Larson, Chris (Contractor) [mailto:Chris.Larson@ed.gov]
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:03 PM
To: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Subject: reference guide
I have the old fat white 11.3 command reference. Big as a phone book. I know
you can look online, but I am interested in having a hardcopy. Does Cisco
still print these for 12.0 or 12.1? I searched through Cisco press a little
and did not come across anything.
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