From: Peter Rosenthal (perosenthal@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed May 01 2002 - 20:32:27 GMT-3
Howard will never take the exam. Others have challenged him and he declines
every time because he knows he doesn't have the skills. If he would at
least once admit that I would probably go a lot easier on him.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ludwig Morales" <lud.morales@codetel.net.do>
To: "Peter van Oene" <pvo@usermail.com>; "Howard C. Berkowitz"
<hcb@gettcomm.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Some free scenarios and tutorials (slight correction)
> If where you dude I'll simply take the exam and shut this people!!
>
> Good luck on your attempt!
>
> :)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter van Oene" <pvo@usermail.com>
> To: "Peter Rosenthal" <perosenthal@hotmail.com>; <Cisco@groupstudy.com>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 12:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Some free scenarios and tutorials (slight correction)
>
>
> > The scenarios are free. I'm sure many folks would be interested in some
> > additional scenarios to work with on their home/work labs. Furthermore,
> > although I haven't seen them, I would suggest they tend far more to the
> > realistic end of networking than the actual CCIE lab. As a guy who has
> > been emphatically making the point that the CCIE does not provide one
with
> > sufficient real life knowledge/experience, I would have thought you'd
take
> > the other side of this argument and support that Howard's not having
taken
> > the lab is a good thing. Life after the lab usually involves doing
things
> > in a more practical nature and thus some practical studying can't hurt
to
> > much, particularly when it's free.
> >
> > Pete
> >
> >
> > At 11:12 AM 5/1/2002 -0400, Peter Rosenthal wrote:
> > >Thank you very much for the spam. It is appreciated by all I'm sure.
> > >Hopefully people do not contribute to yet another CCIE rack site that
> uses
> > >GS to spam. I am amazed this is being allowed. But, I guess that's
what
> > >happens when you have a "partnership."
> > >
> > >Does anyone else see a conflict of interest here? Other vendors have
> been
> > >pushed off the list yet Howard is allowed to frequently spam here.
> Someone
> > >even told me that all cc-bootcmp messages are being filtered because
they
> > >want to keep their competition off the list. I don't know if this is
> true,
> > >so I guess I'll have to try a test message to see if they filter it.
> > >
> > >Besides, who wants to read CCIE prep material from a guy that hasn't
even
> > >passed the lab! Howard does us all a favor and please go take the lab.
> > >You're so awesome with all your books and work on the IETF so it should
> be a
> > >breeze. No excuses!
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb@gettcomm.com>
> > >To: <Cisco@groupstudy.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:57 AM
> > >Subject: Some free scenarios and tutorials (slight correction)
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've set up an anonymous FTP server at 12.107.238.3. Sorry for the
> > > > IP address; it will be ftp.gettlabs.com when our DNS administrator
> > > > updates the file.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, it contains two general sorts of things. First, there's a
> > > > collection of tutorials I've written, plus some of my ongoing work
in
> > > > the IETF and IRTF.
> > > >
> > > > Second, there are an assortment of scenarios in beta test.
Discussion
> > > > on this list is encouraged, and I'll be happy to discuss some of the
> > > > assumptions in their design. Please discuss this on the open list.
> > > >
> > > > Legal disclaimer on scenarios:
> > > > Copyright 2002, Gettlabs, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
> > > > License is granted only for individual, noncommercial use.
> > > > Scenarios may not be further distributed by the person downloading.
> > > >
> > > > In other words, enjoy them as long as you use them in your own
> > > > studies and for nothing else. I ask that you not distribute them
> > > > simply for quality control -- things are constantly being updated
and
> > > > I'd like to be sure people download the most recent version.
> > > >
> > > > Commercial disclaimer: these all run on the www.gettlabs.com racks,
> > > > and we'd be delighted if you bought rack time to run them. That's
not
> > > > a requirement. Gettlabs proper operates on a modified open source
> > > > arrangement for its scenarios. I have cleared this with Paul
> > > > Borghese, and our agreement is that as long as there are no charges
> > > > for the scenarios themselves, even they run on a commercial rack,
> > > > they will not be considered commercial for open discussion.
> > > >
> > > > Some of our partners, such as IPexpert and Groupstudy,
> > > > ^^^^^^^^^^
> > > > I meant CertificationZone. Brain not fully
> interoperable
> > >with
> > > > fingers this morning.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > sell scenarios that run on our racks. If you want to buy them, go to
> > > > their sites and pay them what they ask. What we sell is rack time
> > > > and, in a broader context, consultant and reseller services.
> > > >
> > > > Technical disclaimers: No warranty is implied; many of these
> > > > secenarios are still in test and are being put out to the community
> > > > both for general learning and further evaluation. Even after they
> > > > are fully operational, they still will be downloadable with no
charge.
> > > >
> > > > Couple of miscellaneous notes:
> > > >
> > > > Scenarios 1 through 4 are meant to be run one after another,
with
> 5
> > >and 6
> > > > coming. You can run 2, 3, or 4 by itself, as long as you preload
the
> > > > configurations that come before it.
> > > > The "H" files contain initialization configurations. In general,
> > > > addresses are preassigned for non-frame/ATM/ISDN interfaces, and you
> > > > are given an address range for switched interfaes.
> > > > --
> > > > "What Problem are you trying to solve?"
> > > > ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not
> > > > directly to me***
> > > >
> >
>
>***************************************************************************
> *
> > >****
> > > > Howard C. Berkowitz hcb@gettcomm.com
> > > > Chief Technology Officer, GettLab/Gett Communications
> > >http://www.gettlabs.com
> > > > Technical Director, CertificationZone.com
> http://www.certificationzone.com
> > > > "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005
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