From: Peter van Oene (pvo@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed May 01 2002 - 13:38:33 GMT-3
The scenarios are free. I'm sure many folks would be interested in some
additional scenarios to work with on their home/work labs. Furthermore,
although I haven't seen them, I would suggest they tend far more to the
realistic end of networking than the actual CCIE lab. As a guy who has
been emphatically making the point that the CCIE does not provide one with
sufficient real life knowledge/experience, I would have thought you'd take
the other side of this argument and support that Howard's not having taken
the lab is a good thing. Life after the lab usually involves doing things
in a more practical nature and thus some practical studying can't hurt to
much, particularly when it's free.
Pete
At 11:12 AM 5/1/2002 -0400, Peter Rosenthal wrote:
>Thank you very much for the spam. It is appreciated by all I'm sure.
>Hopefully people do not contribute to yet another CCIE rack site that uses
>GS to spam. I am amazed this is being allowed. But, I guess that's what
>happens when you have a "partnership."
>
>Does anyone else see a conflict of interest here? Other vendors have been
>pushed off the list yet Howard is allowed to frequently spam here. Someone
>even told me that all cc-bootcmp messages are being filtered because they
>want to keep their competition off the list. I don't know if this is true,
>so I guess I'll have to try a test message to see if they filter it.
>
>Besides, who wants to read CCIE prep material from a guy that hasn't even
>passed the lab! Howard does us all a favor and please go take the lab.
>You're so awesome with all your books and work on the IETF so it should be a
>breeze. No excuses!
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" <hcb@gettcomm.com>
>To: <Cisco@groupstudy.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 9:57 AM
>Subject: Some free scenarios and tutorials (slight correction)
>
>
> > I've set up an anonymous FTP server at 12.107.238.3. Sorry for the
> > IP address; it will be ftp.gettlabs.com when our DNS administrator
> > updates the file.
> >
> > Anyway, it contains two general sorts of things. First, there's a
> > collection of tutorials I've written, plus some of my ongoing work in
> > the IETF and IRTF.
> >
> > Second, there are an assortment of scenarios in beta test. Discussion
> > on this list is encouraged, and I'll be happy to discuss some of the
> > assumptions in their design. Please discuss this on the open list.
> >
> > Legal disclaimer on scenarios:
> > Copyright 2002, Gettlabs, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
> > License is granted only for individual, noncommercial use.
> > Scenarios may not be further distributed by the person downloading.
> >
> > In other words, enjoy them as long as you use them in your own
> > studies and for nothing else. I ask that you not distribute them
> > simply for quality control -- things are constantly being updated and
> > I'd like to be sure people download the most recent version.
> >
> > Commercial disclaimer: these all run on the www.gettlabs.com racks,
> > and we'd be delighted if you bought rack time to run them. That's not
> > a requirement. Gettlabs proper operates on a modified open source
> > arrangement for its scenarios. I have cleared this with Paul
> > Borghese, and our agreement is that as long as there are no charges
> > for the scenarios themselves, even they run on a commercial rack,
> > they will not be considered commercial for open discussion.
> >
> > Some of our partners, such as IPexpert and Groupstudy,
> > ^^^^^^^^^^
> > I meant CertificationZone. Brain not fully interoperable
>with
> > fingers this morning.
> >
> >
> > sell scenarios that run on our racks. If you want to buy them, go to
> > their sites and pay them what they ask. What we sell is rack time
> > and, in a broader context, consultant and reseller services.
> >
> > Technical disclaimers: No warranty is implied; many of these
> > secenarios are still in test and are being put out to the community
> > both for general learning and further evaluation. Even after they
> > are fully operational, they still will be downloadable with no charge.
> >
> > Couple of miscellaneous notes:
> >
> > Scenarios 1 through 4 are meant to be run one after another, with 5
>and 6
> > coming. You can run 2, 3, or 4 by itself, as long as you preload the
> > configurations that come before it.
> > The "H" files contain initialization configurations. In general,
> > addresses are preassigned for non-frame/ATM/ISDN interfaces, and you
> > are given an address range for switched interfaes.
> > --
> > "What Problem are you trying to solve?"
> > ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not
> > directly to me***
> >
>****************************************************************************
>****
> > Howard C. Berkowitz hcb@gettcomm.com
> > Chief Technology Officer, GettLab/Gett Communications
>http://www.gettlabs.com
> > Technical Director, CertificationZone.com http://www.certificationzone.com
> > "retired" Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005
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