RE: DLSW and Source Bridge

From: Chua, Parry (Parry.Chua@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Mar 19 2002 - 05:18:57 GMT-3


   
Hello Lupi,

I read your base note, you are using two WS with ethernet to test across the DL
SW, right ?

WS1-e-(R1,IP)--DLSW--(R3,IP)-to-ring-to-(R6,bridge)-e-WS2

What kind of bridgeing configuration at R6, TB, or SRTLB ?
- If R6 is configure as TB, source route is not necessary at all in this config
uration.

If you want to test the token ring to ethernet, it will be better to test using
 dspu using two router ( in your case R6 and another router to r1)

Below is the example post by this group member, I have not test it before..
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On client (R7), do:

dspu host R6T xid-snd 01712358 rmac 4000.3745.6666 rsap 4 lsap 4
dspu host R6DLSW xid-snd 01712360 rmac 4000.3745.6666 rsap 12 lsap 12
dspu host R6VTAM xid-snd 01712359 rmac 4000.3745.6666 rsap 8 lsap 8
interface Ethernet0/0
 mac-address 4000.1010.7777
 dspu enable-host lsap 4
 dspu enable-host lsap 8
 dspu enable-host lsap 12
 dspu start R6T
 dspu start R6DLSW
 dspu start R6VTAM

On server (R6), do:

dspu pu R7_HOST rmac 4000.1010.7777 rsap 4 lsap 4
dspu pu R7_MAINFRA rmac 4000.1010.7777 rsap 8 lsap 8
dspu pu R7_BIGIRON rmac 4000.1010.7777 rsap 12 lsap 12
interface GigabitEthernet1/0/0
 mac-address 4000.3745.6666
 dspu enable-pu lsap 4
 dspu enable-pu lsap 8
 dspu enable-pu lsap 12
!
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> Parry Chua
>
>

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Sinclair [mailto:sinclairj@powertel.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 11:41 AM
To: 'Lupi, Guy'; Jason Sinclair; ''Frank B' '
Cc: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com '
Subject: RE: DLSW and Source Bridge

Guy,

Using your original configs please send through a show dlsw peer, show dlsw
circuit, show source, show dlsw reach. Have you also taken into account that
you will either need to manually bitswap your layer 3 addresses or use the
bridge command to do this? Also, maybe a silly question, but you do have
routing between these devices? Can you ping from 3.3.3.3 to 11.11.11.11?
Also, are your peers connected? If you send the output of these commands
from both routers I can take a look. Also could you paste the full configs
from both these routers as what you have configured here is correct and thus
there must be some further issue.

Cheers.

Jason Sinclair
Manager, Network Support Group
POWERTEL
Ground Level, 55 Clarence Street,
SYDNEY NSW 2000
AUSTRALIA
office: + 61 2 8264 3820
mobile: + 61 416 105 858
* sinclairj@powertel.com.au

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Lupi, Guy [mailto:Guy.Lupi@eurekaggn.com]
                Sent: Tuesday, 19 March 2002 12:20
                To: 'Jason Sinclair '; ''Frank B' '
                Cc: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com '
                Subject: RE: DLSW and Source Bridge

                Here are the configs, first the ones that didn't work, and
then the added
                commands to the token ring router that made it work as I
expected, thanks
                for your time:

                r3
                source-bridge ring-group 12
                dlsw local-peer peer-id 3.3.3.3 lf 1500 promiscuous
                dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 11.11.11.11
                !
                interface Loopback0
                ip address 3.3.3.3 255.255.255.0
                !
                interface TokenRing0
                ip address 200.200.200.1 255.255.255.0
                ring-speed 16
                source-bridge 1 1 12
                source-bridge spanning

                r1
                dlsw local-peer peer-id 11.11.11.11 lf 1500
                dlsw remote-peer 0 tcp 3.3.3.3
                dlsw bridge-group 1
                !
                !
                interface Loopback0
                 ip address 11.11.11.11 255.255.255.0
                !
                interface Ethernet0
                 ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
                 bridge-group 1

                But if I put the following commands on r3, it works no
problem, even after
                the source bridge commands are removed.

                r3
                dlsw bridge-group 1
                !
                interface TokenRing0
                bridge-group 1

                

                -----Original Message-----
                From: Jason Sinclair
                To: Lupi, Guy; 'Frank B'
                Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
                Sent: 3/18/2002 7:00 PM
                Subject: RE: DLSW and Source Bridge

                Guy,

                Please post your configs. The dlsw source-bridge command is
ONLY used
                for
                bridging the ethernet bridging domain to DLSW. If you send
your configs
                I
                can see what is going on.

                Regards,

                Jason Sinclair
                Manager, Network Support Group
                POWERTEL
                Ground Level, 55 Clarence Street,
                SYDNEY NSW 2000
                AUSTRALIA
                office: + 61 2 8264 3820
                mobile: + 61 416 105 858
                * sinclairj@powertel.com.au

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: Lupi, Guy
[mailto:Guy.Lupi@eurekaggn.com]
                                Sent: Tuesday, 19 March 2002 08:17
                                To: 'Frank B'
                                Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
                                Subject: RE: DLSW and Source Bridge

                                I did have source bridge spanning on the
interfaces, it
                still didn't work.
                                The only time it worked was if I used the
dlsw
                bridge-group
                command and put
                                the token ring interface into that bridge
group. I
                noticed
                you said that
                                you do require the source bridge statements,
but that
                doesn't seem to be the
                                case, after I found that I got it working
with the
                bridge
                group commands I
                                removed all the srb commands and it still
worked with no
                srb
                commands on the
                                router. Why do you say you have to have
them, are there
                certain situations
                                where they are required, and some where they
are not?
                By
                the way, my ASCII
                                drawing didn't come out very well so I
figured I would
                give
                it another shot
                                below, any responses are appreciated:

                        
        
workstation--e0--r1--/\/\/\--r3--to0--to0--r6(bridge)--workstation

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: Frank B [mailto:frank@buff-net.com]
                                Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 5:12 PM
                                To: Lupi, Guy
                                Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
                                Subject: RE: DLSW and Source Bridge

                                Guy,
                                        You also need the source-bridge
spanning command
                on
                the token
                                ring interface. This command enables
spanning tree
                explorers. I assume
                                you're testing using a windows workstation
and enabling
                netbeui on you
                                NIC. If so, you MUST enable spanning tree
explorers to
                see
                the shares
                                across the network if you use SRB.

                                On your other comment, YES! You need SRB
commands with
                token ring
                                interfaces in DLSW. The router uses SRB to
get from the
                physical ring
                                through the "bridge" to the virtual-ring you
created
                with
                the command:

                                Source-bridge 1 1 12

                                DLSW picks it up from the virtual ring.

                                And lastly, this WILL work with the
transparent bridging
                commands as you
                                suspect. Try it out man...post your results
to the
                group.

                                Aloha, Frank

                                -----Original Message-----
                                From: nobody@groupstudy.com
                [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]
                On Behalf Of
                                Lupi, Guy
                                Sent: Monday, March 18, 2002 5:31 AM
                                To: 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
                                Subject: DLSW and Source Bridge

                                In documents that I have seen, it shows that
on a token
                ring
                router
                                running
                                dlsw, all that is required is a
source-bridge command
                i.e.
                                "source-bridge
                                ring-group 12", and on the interface
"source-bridge 1 1
                12"
                linking the
                                interface to the virtual ring. I set up
dlsw between a
                token ring
                                router
                                and an ethernet router, I don't have a
token ring
                workstation so I set
                                up
                                one router with ethernet and token ring as a
transparent
                bridge as seen
                                below. But it didn't work like I thought.
I could not
                get
                it to work
                                with
                                the source bridge commands, but when I made
the token
                ring
                interface
                                part of
                                a bridge group and put in the dlsw
bridge-group command,
                it
                worked with
                                no
                                problem, I could find the other workstation
and transfer
                files. I have
                                also
                                seen configs where an ethernet router has a
source
                bridge
                command when
                                peering with a dlsw token ring router. When
do we use
                the
                source bridge
                                commands in dlsw, are they really necessary,
or can it
                be
                done just
                                using
                                bridge groups? I included an ASCII drawing
of what I
                had
                set up below,
                                maybe the source bridge commands didn't work
because I
                had
                this setup
                                with
                                the transparent bridge?
                                
                                
                                
                        
        
workstation--------e0-------r1----/\/\/\----r3------------to0--------to0
                                ----
        
-----------r6--------------------e0--------workstation
                                
                                (Transparent bridge)
                        
        



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