From: Joe Morabito (joe.morabito@xxxxxxx)
Date: Sun Feb 17 2002 - 01:21:27 GMT-3
Chuck,
I was just going over the steps laid out in caslow's book, do you think the
step 1, step 2, step 3 approach is better than the layered approach - layer
2, layer 3, access-list, etc.
Thanks.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Morabito" <joe.morabito@cox.net>
To: "Chuck Church" <cchurch@MAGNACOM.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>;
<cisco@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: Whew! CCIE 8776!
> Congrats!
>
> What did you do the last couple of months? Practice speed? Or maybe
> practice the many "little" things in IOS?
>
> Thanks!
>
> I too long for a good night sleep....
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Church" <cchurch@MAGNACOM.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>; <cisco@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:43 AM
> Subject: Whew! CCIE 8776!
>
>
> > All,
> >
> > I think the title says it all. Took the lab today at RTP. 4th time
> > was the charm. I don't know where to begin. Might as well start with
the
> > thank you's. Thanks to Bruce, Val, and Fred at NetMasterClass. Thanks
> also
> > to those on the list that I've either studied with or have helped me out
> in
> > the past with problems. Thanks also to Paul for putting this great list
> > together. As far as how I prepared, I might as well give the whole
story.
> > Started working on Cisco about 2 1/2 years ago after going though the
> Novell
> > and MS Certs. After getting NA, DA, NP, and DP, I passed the CCIE
written
> > in October 2000. Without really knowing how to study or what to prepare
> > for, I got my butt handed to me in January at RTP. Didn't know much
more
> > than your average CCNP would. Tried again in April, but BGP killed me,
> and
> > again I didn't make it to day 2. After that, I found a study partner
> > (Thanks Boris) and we worked pretty hard last summer. Did all the
> bootcamp
> > labs, thought I knew everything I needed to.
> > November 4 of 2001, figured I'd breeze through the lab. I don't
> > know if it's true, but I heard the first couple of months with the new 1
> day
> > format had a very low pass rate. I know I could have used a couple more
> > hours to finish. If anyone took the lab in Oct or Nov of last year and
> > failed, don't be discouraged. I think they've scaled it back a little
> > nowadays.
> > Fast forwarding to today. After spending a week with Val, Bruce,
> > and Fred at the NMC-1 course, and doing nothing but working on my speed,
I
> > felt pretty prepared. Everything in the Doyle Volume 1 and Bruce/Val's
> book
> > made sense. Though running a little low on sleep, I felt good this
> morning.
> > Roughly 4.5 hours into the test, we got lunch. At that point I was done
> > with the IGP's and almost done with the EGP's. In other words about 2/3
> of
> > the way done, by my estimate. At 1:30 I was done, but needed to go back
> and
> > work on 3 things I couldn't figure out. A little discussing with the
> > proctor, and 2 of them were fixed. But then I think I read too much. I
> had
> > solved a problem one way, but realized the wording of the question might
> > change what they were looking for. Checking with the proctor, I got the
> > impression that he really didn't like my solution. So there I am, 1.5
> hours
> > to go, and I'm making a somewhat major change :( Looked OK, but with
1/2
> an
> > hour to go, I noticed a 'neighborship' bouncing up and down :o 10
minutes
> > to go, got it all working, but didn't get a chance to completely double
> > check all my other work as time expired. I know I left 1 thing
> unconfigured
> > (a 2 pointer), but started wondering if I'd made other mistakes. They
> said
> > to expect the results tomorrow afternoon. A plane flight back to New
> York,
> > and there's the email waiting. 8776!
> > If anyone's wondering what I used to study, here's the short list:
> >
> > Groupstudy! Paul's done a great job. There are certain people on this
> list
> > that should be flagged as must-reads. I won't mention any last names,
but
> > there are a couple guys named 'Brian' (both long-time CCIEs) that are a
> huge
> > asset to this list. Thanks guys.
> >
> > Doyle - Volumes 1 and 2 - Everything you ever wanted to know about IP,
but
> > were afraid to ask.
> >
> > Bridges, Routers, and Switches for CCIEs - Bruce Caslow and Val
> Pavlichenko
> > - Used edition 2, but I understand 3 is coming out soon. This book
covers
> > most everything. I expect the new edition will cover more multicast and
> > QOS, and drop Appletalk and DECnet. But still the most useful book I've
> > found.
> >
> > Halabi - Used 1st edition, but everything I was asked to do with BGP is
in
> > that book.
> >
> > Bootcamp labs - Worked though these with a partner, because his company
> was
> > cool enough to buy them for him, and my company wasn't! Great
preparation
> > and simulation for the test.
> >
> > Various docs from CCO - Might as well go to the source!
> >
> > Most importantly - NMC-1 http://www.netmasterclass.net/nmc/ Bruce and
Val
> > explain the most difficult subjects very well. A couple of things are a
> > little lacking in the book, but they cover those very well in the class.
> Be
> > prepared to work your a** off that week though. 8:30AM to 11PM is the
> norm
> > that week. But I highly recommend it, especially if you've come close
to
> > passing before.
> >
> > Well, sorry to ramble on so much. I'm off to bed for a L O N G
> > sleep.
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> > Chuck Church
> > CCIE 8776
> > CCNP, CCDP, MCNE, MCSE
> > Sr. Network Engineer
> > Magnacom Technologies
> > 140 N. Rt. 303
> > Valley Cottage, NY 10989
> > 845-267-4000 x218
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