From: Marc Russell (mrussell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Sat Feb 09 2002 - 16:35:54 GMT-3
I'm not even sure what everyone is arguing about here. It doesn't make any
sense to me, but I want to set the record straight that Todd Carswell is not
receiving any kick-backs or special favors from Network Learning.
In fact, before today I didn't even know who he was. Yes, he did purchase
from us, but we have thousands of customers and I'm not directly involved in
every little tranascation.
Lets all get back to the purpose of the list.
Marc Russell
Network Learning, Inc.
1677 W. Hamlin
Rochester Hills, MI 48309
Work PH# 248-299-8114
Fax# 248-299-7975
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WEB CCIE Boot Camp www.ccbootcamp.com (Check us out for CCIE lab exam
preparation)
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-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Dennis [mailto:brian@5g.net]
Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 2:04 PM
To: Todd Carswell; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: purchase home Lab equipment
Todd,
I'm not checking up on you. I'm just telling the truth. People need to just
be truthful. You're obviously getting some kickback from them to post this
kind of crap. I know they've done that in the past.
Brian
On Saturday 09 February 2002 10:47 am, Todd Carswell wrote:
> Brian,
>
> Woah, there fella! Control yourself! I'm not trying to get into a
> "urinating contest" here. I bought 2 rack mount kits for 2 of my
> routers on ebay. Sure, I got them cheap. I have always maintained
> that Ebay is a place where you can secure cheap stuff. I love
> ebay!!!!
>
> I have a total of 9 routers, though, and I bought 6 of my rack mount
> kits from ccbootcamp because it presented a "one stop shopping" source
> for my lab study requirements. I did not have to monkey around with 9
> different sellers from an auction site. (Please contact ccbootcamp if
> you want to check up on that fact.)
>
> At this point, I'm not even sure what we're arguing about. You seem
> to be angry that I'm sharing positive comments about ccbootcamp. All
> I'm doing is sharing my experiences. You went to ebay and looked up
> past auctions that I've participated in to try to prove something.
> What's your point? It seems a bit like "cyber-stalking" to me.
>
> That leads to another question...
>
> If you're helping somebody who's about to take the lab exam, how do
> you have time to go out and check up on me?
>
> Providing assistance to CCIE candidates is very noble. I applaud your
> efforts and I'm thankful for all of the CCIEs who lend their time and
> energy to the cause. If one of these people you are "helping" says
> something you don't agree with, do you make it a habit of attacking
> them?
>
> I won't go back and search the groupstudy archives, but my guess is
> that you spend a lot of time trying to "set the record straight". Am
> I right?
>
> Go get some therapy, man!
>
> Todd Carswell
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brian Dennis" <brian@5g.net>
> To: "Todd Carswell" <acarswell@nc.rr.com>; "Fred Quan"
> <qfgccie@yahoo.com>; "Nick Shah" <nshah@connect.com.au>;
> <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:46 PM
> Subject: Re: purchase home Lab equipment
>
> > Todd,
> > Okay lets see. If you liked their service so much why did you
> > purchase
>
> these
>
> > items for half the price of what they sell them for?
> >
> > ccbootcamp's price
> > 25xx Rackmount Kit - $25
> >
> > Auction you won on eBay for $9.95.
> > Cisco Rack Mount Kit for 2500 series router Item # 1295010740
> >
> > Auction you won on eBay for $14.00.
> > ****CISCO 2500 SERIES ROUTER RACK MOUNTS**** Item # 1295235366
> >
> >
> > I thought you wanted to as you said "avoid the hassle" ;-)
> >
> > All I'm saying is that you can save a lot of money by using eBay and
> > we
>
> both
>
> > know that.
> >
> > Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial)
> >
> > On Saturday 09 February 2002 08:57 am, Todd Carswell wrote:
> > > Brian,
> > >
> > > You are right. It is possible to find a 2501 on Ebay for about
> > > $350.00.
>
> I
>
> > > actually bought a couple of 2503's on Ebay and I got fair prices.
> > > When
>
> it
>
> > > was all said and done, though, I ended up spending about 2 weeks
> > > hemming-and-hawwing over that one purchase. The seller forgot to
> > > send
>
> me
>
> > > the rack mount kits that were promised in the listing and I NEVER
>
> received
>
> > > the documentation CD that was shown in the ad.
> > >
> > > I needed a lot more equipment and I did not want to invest all the
> > > time
>
> it
>
> > > would take to put a home lab together in a piecemeal fashion.
> > >
> > > To avoid the hassle, I went to ccbootcamp and followed the link to
> > > Optimized Systems. I went to the "PayPal Only" store and selected
> > > all
>
> of
>
> > > the equipment I needed. I ended up paying $419.00 for each 2501 I
>
> needed.
>
> > > I sent 1 paypal payment to Network Learning for all of the
> > > equipment I need. In about 5 days, the UPS guy showed up on my
> > > doorstep with all my stuff. Nice and easy.
> > >
> > > When my routers arrived from ccbootcamp, they had IOS 12.1
> > > installed and 16M of RAM and 16M of flash. You'll have to search
> > > through a lot of listings on ebay to find something like that. In
> > > addition, all of the stuff I ordered was in the box. They've
> > > really got their stuff together over at NLI.
> > >
> > > All-in-all, the money I MIGHT have saved at Ebay was no worth the
> > > time
>
> that
>
> > > I would have invested.
> > >
> > > Disclaimer: I do NOT work for Network Learning, Inc. or Optimized
>
> Systems.
>
> > > I'm just pleased with my interaction with the folks over there and
> > > I'm passing the word to my fellow CCIE candidates.
> > >
> > > That's my take on the situation, anyway.
> > >
> > > Take care.
> > >
> > > Todd
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Going the Ebay route
> > >
> > > The problem with
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Brian Dennis" <brian@5g.net>
> > > To: "Todd Carswell" <acarswell@nc.rr.com>; "Fred Quan"
>
> <qfgccie@yahoo.com>;
>
> > > "Nick Shah" <nshah@connect.com.au>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 12:36 AM
> > > Subject: Re: purchase home Lab equipment
> > >
> > > > Todd,
> > > > Not to take anything away from ccbootcamp but you should be able
> > > > to
>
> get a
>
> > > > 2501 with 16/16 for about $350 on eBay. If you can't let me
> > > > know and I'll sell them too you all day for $350 with 16/16 ;-)
> > > >
> > > > Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (R&S)(ISP/Dial)
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 08 February 2002 08:59 pm, Todd Carswell wrote:
> > > > > Go to ccbootcamp.com. They have partnered with optimized
> > > > > systems to
> > >
> > > sell
> > >
> > > > > cisco hardware. I bought my stuff from them and it was
> > > > > CHEAPER than anything I've found on Ebay. (i.e. You can get a
> > > > > 2501 for $419.00.
>
> If
>
> > > you
> > >
> > > > > look it up on ebay, you'll be hard pressed to find a price
> > > > > that
>
> low.)
>
> > > > > Good luck!
> > > > >
> > > > > Todd
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Fred Quan" <qfgccie@yahoo.com>
> > > > > To: "Nick Shah" <nshah@connect.com.au>;
> > > > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 11:32 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: purchase home Lab equipment
> > > > >
> > > > > > Nick,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for your advice.
> > > > > > I don't like to buy individually, it spend many time and
> > > > > > energy,
>
> I'm
>
> > > > > > lacking for time and energy.
> > > > > > I would like to setup my home lab quickly .
> > > > > > Do you know who can resell his home lab to me?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Fred
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Nick Shah" <nshah@connect.com.au>
> > > > > > To: "Fred Quan" <qfgccie@yahoo.com>;
> > > > > > <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:42 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: purchase home Lab equipment
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would suggest buying off ebay, you could end up saving
> > > > > > > heaps
>
> of
>
> > > $$$.
> > >
> > > > > > > I actually bought stuff for almost half the price(albeit,
> > > > > > > I
>
> spent
>
> > > 3-4
> > >
> > > > > > weeks
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > shopping around), of what I was quoted when I went for
> > > > > > > *single
>
> full
>
> > > lab
> > >
> > > > > > > deals*. Of course if you are short of time (or dont want
> > > > > > > to shop around) look out for people who have just got
> > > > > > > their CCIE's
>
> (there
>
> > > were
> > >
> > > > > > > atleast 2 guys in the last 3-4 days) and wanted to sell
> > > > > > > their equipment.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nick
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Fred Quan <qfgccie@yahoo.com>
> > > > > > > To: ccielab@groupstudy.com <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > > > Date: Friday, 8 February 2002 4:26
> > > > > > > Subject: purchase home Lab equipment
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Dear all,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I'd like to purchase cisco equipment to setup home lab .
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >If someone have home lab to sell, please free feel to
> > > > > > > >contact
>
> me.
>
> > > > > > > >Mail: qfgccie@yahoo.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >- Fred
> >
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