From: kurt kruegel (kurt@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Jan 07 2002 - 16:54:40 GMT-3
that application doesn't really make sense to me ?
your house is not copyrighted material or someone else's intellectual property.
to me lab equipment (routers,switches) would be physical property
(like your house)
but, (labs)
would be copyrighted material
composed of someone else's intellectual property that you are granted a licence
to
use.
Shawn wrote:
> That's a very interesting statement. You can buy and sale lab equipment, etc,
> but not labs. (Wow)
> That's like telling me I can't resell my home. No disrespect to Brad or
> CCBootcamp, but my interpretation of the copyright law is :
>
> The U.S. copyright act grants certain exclusive rights to the owner of a
> copyright in a work. These exclusive rights are different from the rights
> given to a person who merely owns a copy of the work. For example, when a
> person purchases a book at a bookstore, they have received a property right i
n
> a copy of a copyrighted work (namely, the book). The book owner may then
> resell the book, or even destroy it, since they own the book. However, the
> book's owner did not receive any copyright rights when they purchased the
> book. All copyright rights are held by the book's author until the author
> specifically transfers them. Consequently, the book owner may not make any
> copies of the book, since the right to copy a work is one of the exclusive
> rights granted under the Copyright Act. This distinction allows a copyright
> owner to sell copies of a work, or even the original work itself (such as a
> sculpture), without forfeiting her rights under the Copyright Act.
>
> The distribution act grants to the copyright holder the exclusive right to
> make a work available to the public by sale, rental, lease, or lending. This
> right allows the copyright holder to prevent the distribution of unauthorized
> copies of a work. In addition, the right allows the copyright holder to
> control the first distribution of a particular authorized copy. However, the
> distribution right is limited by the "first sale doctrine", which states that
> after the first sale or distribution of a copy, the copyright holder can no
> longer control what happens to that copy. Thus, after a book has been
> purchased at a book store (the first sale of a copy), the copyright holder ha
s
> no say over how that copy is further distributed. Thus, the book could be
> rented or resold without the permission of the copyright holder.
>
> Just my two Cents
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Hennigan" <jay@west.net>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:37 PM
> Subject: Re: buy ccbootcamp lab subscription
>
> > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Brad Ellis wrote:
> >
> > > They are licensed by individual user and can not be resold. If you would
> > > like to purchase our labs, please do so from our website.
> >
> > Huh? It was my understanding that these materials are not produced in
> > electronic form (to reduce unauthorized copying) but instead are printed
> > like a book or magazine. As much as I can appreciate the effort that goes
> > into the production of such materials, the resale of copyrighted works that
> > are on a physical medium such as a book, magazine, videotape, CD, EPROM,
> > or art on canvas is TTBOMK universally permitted.
> >
> > I could see where access to a password-protected website could be banned
> > from being resold, but not physical paper goods.
> >
> > On the other hand, I'm a CCIE, not a copyright lawyer.
> >
> > > > Many thanks to all that responded to my VPN question.
> > > >
> > > > I wish to buy a ccie lab subscription, but it's quite expensive on
> > > > ccbootcamp. Is there any CCIE that would like to sell their used ccie
> lab
> > > > subscription ?
> >
> > --
> > Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Administration - jay@west.net
> > NetLojix Communications, Inc. - http://www.netlojix.com/
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