From: Scott Decker (sdecker@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Wed Dec 05 2001 - 20:13:56 GMT-3
Folks:
I just have to weigh in on this one.
1) Sparkest, you don't say what you are willing to work for.
2) You don't say how much other relevant experience you have.
3) I am sympathetic to your plight--to a point.
4) This is not a flame, but an observation.
Personally, I have a lot of experience in this industry, and I consider
it my obligation to keep abreast of salaries, jobs, and opportunities
that I might fit. I do not restrict myself to any particular area when
I consider those things. Who else besides you is going to stand up for
all the hard work that you have done?
I suggest that you review salaries for folks who have your
certifications AND experience. Don't restrict yourself to Calgary, or
even Canada for that matter. One thing that this business needs
desperately is folks who are willing to work and not afraid to take
chances. Did you not take chances obtaining your CCIE in the first
place? I know I have.
Get out there, pound the ground, take what you can get, and move ahead.
You may not get the perfect job next week, but stick in there and it
will come. Put forth as much time and effort into your search as you
did obtaining your CCIE. Don't let things like a 'soft job market'
stand in your way. This isn't the first time the IT market has sucked,
and it won't be the last. Don't let it claim you, too.
Take care,
Scott
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Leigh Anne Chisholm
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:48 PM
To: Raphael Gallegos; hsm_p@hotmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com;
jobs@groupstudy.com
Subject: RE: ~~~ CCIE still needs a job~~~
The market in Canada is pretty poor and has been for at least a year.
Vancouver and Toronto are the hot spots for Cisco-related employment -
but
elsewhere like Calgary - things are quite cool.
-- Leigh Anne
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Raphael Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:46 AM
To: hsm_p@hotmail.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com; jobs@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: ~~~ CCIE still needs a job~~~
It turns out that sparkest pig is a ccie according to what he sent me,
this
is a shame that he cannot find a job that pays more than that, if
anybody
knows of inside opportunities, lets forward the favor directly to him
(Not
this list)...hsm_p@hotmail.com.
I will also ask some of my Calgary and Vancouver contacts about the
situation up there in Canada to see if there is opportunity.
Remember if you demand it, they will pay it.
Good Luck.
Raphael
>From: "sparkest pig" <hsm_p@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: "sparkest pig" <hsm_p@hotmail.com>
>To: ccielab@groupstudy.com, jobs@groupstudy.com
>Subject: ~~~ CCIE still needs a job~~~
>Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 05:42:08
>
>I am the CCIE that sent the message "~~~CCIE needs job~~~"
>
>thanks for those that send me some link or offer to help. I will
response
>to each of you with my resume (but use my another email address). i
have
>contact headhunters and ask professional to proof read my resume/cover
>letter two months ago already.
>
>and for the "Mcdonald" jokes, it does not make me feel too bad (hey,
>imagine
>i go through everything that a CCIE supposed to go through and I get
laid
>off about a month AFTER I get my CCIE. and I am still out of job and
>probably i m jobless until christmas. compare to this, the "Mcdonald"
>jokes
>is a "stess relief" ;). The reason that I am not willing to work at
>Mcdonald is: i know that my 55% EI (employment insurance) from Canada
is
>more than Cdn$8/hr at Mcdonald. Being able to figure out how to pass
CCIE
>and complete my M.Eng degree, I am smart enough to know that it is
better
>to
>stay home and get my 55% EI pay than working at Mcdonald where I can
only
>get 25k a year.
>
>and for those that challenge me for my CCIE number, I also will reply
>separately with my CCIE number, my real name, when and where did I get
my
>CCIE. I did not post it in my original post because I don't enjoy my
number
>plus my name floating around (there is nothing wrong with that. it is
just
>personal perference).
>
>and i apologize that i send this email to the study list too. sorry.
>
>once again, thanks. this list is very encouraging because everytime
when i
>receive someone that offer help to me, I feel that there is still hope.
>
>and please don't flame anymore. i m sure that many of us would not
want to
>see flame.
>
>
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