From: Thompson, Kenny (K.) (kthomp40@xxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Nov 29 2001 - 10:52:50 GMT-3
Guys, Guys, Guys,
Grow up. If someone doesn't stop, this will not stop at all. It will only conti
nue in a loop.
We are supposed to be friends somehow even if we have never seen each other not
e-boxers.
Rgds
Kenny
-----Original Message-----
From: Larson, Chris (Contractor) [mailto:Chris.Larson@ed.gov]
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:42 PM
To: 'Church, Chuck'; 'Frank Kim'; 'Astorga, Fernando'
Cc: 'Jim Brown'; 'Arnold Ocasio'; 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Subject: RE: Immature Remark: RE: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
I hate these posts but I don't see how asking the original question was
breaking the NDA. The person did not say "I had this in my lab". It is clear
though by some of the responses that it is on the lab so most importantly
what is the answer.
How in the he** is asking
Does anyone know how you can add this command?:
> >
> > Ipx Network FFFFFFFE
Breaking the NDA. You guys are nuts. This is stupid. Are you trying to say
that I cannot ask any questions about anything I had on my exam even if I
don't say "I had this in my exam". BULL. I have been on this group and the
ccnp group and this same stupid thing goes round and round.
If what you guys say is correct then there is a whole plethora of questions
that have been asked on here that break the NDA. In fact much of what I have
seen discussed is clearly part of the lab and that doesn't have to be said.
Be sure not to ask any questions about access-lists or you will break the
NDA. shhhhh!!! wink wink
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Church, Chuck
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:42 AM
To: 'Frank Kim'; 'Astorga, Fernando'
Cc: 'Jim Brown'; 'Arnold Ocasio'; 'ccielab@groupstudy.com'
Subject: RE: Immature Remark: RE: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
Frank,
Lighten up. I never said this question was on the lab. Reading his
question, he states that he know's it possible, and doesn't mention why he's
trying to do this anyway. Usually, we all mention the source of the
particular scenario we're working on, whether it's CCBootcamp, ASET, etc.
It just sounded real suspicious. The second word of my original post was
'ASSUMING' also. Nothing that will hold up in NDA court! I hope this is
the end of this thread.
Chuck
-----Original Message-----
From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
Frank Kim
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:04 PM
To: Astorga, Fernando
Cc: 'Jim Brown'; 'Arnold Ocasio'; Church, Chuck; ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Immature Remark: RE: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
Roberto Iannuzzi et all,
Reading this thread makes me feel funny. The person that is actually
breaking the NDA is Chuck Church! He jumped right out and said "I'm
assuming you had this on your lab and are breaking the NDA...." This is
like telling the whole world that hey, that question is on the lab.
Mr. Roberto Iannuzzi asked a perfectly valid technical question in this
ccie-lab email-list. He's studying for the lab just like anyone in
here. So if we know the answers, help him out and if we don't we keep our
mouth shut. I think immature remarks such as that came out of Chuck
Church will eventually lead to NDA related violations.
For example, I posted a question in this group asking for: Has anyone
ever typed conf t on a router and it worked? And Mr. smartass Chuck
Church jumped in and said: oh Frank, you're breaking NDA now cuz that's on
the test.... Let's look back and see who's the trouble maker here? The
person who's asking the question or Chuck Church?
-Frank
On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Astorga,
Fernando wrote:
> You know this could be just an honest question. There is an IOS version
> with the "IP Only" feature set where the "ipx network FFFFFFFE" will not
> work! I ran into this because this is the version we regularly used, and
> when I started practicing for the CCIE lab, I had the same symptom.
>
> Can you all consider this a possible scenario?
>
> -Fernando
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Brown [mailto:Jim.Brown@CaseLogic.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:37 AM
> To: 'Arnold Ocasio'; 'Church, Chuck'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
>
>
> Guys,
>
> You know this is a violation of the NDA, but yelling about it let's
everyone
> know. I'm not telling anyone what they should or shouldn't do, but
couldn't
> we be doing more harm by bringing it to light in a public group?
>
> I observed this same thing a few months ago over someone postings a DLSW
> question which probably would have gone unnoticed, but the fact that it
drew
> so much attention did more damage. It theoretically gave away three points
> on the exam for anyone who did a little research.
>
> I would suggest bitching at him offline to protect the actual test
question
> or reporting him for the violation.
>
> I hope I'm not upsetting either one of you, it is not my intent. I respect
> both or your opinions and know you are both very helpful in posting
> responses for the group.
>
> I personally have no respect for someone who is to lazy to research a
> question from an exam they had or a question that was passed onto them
from
> someone who has taken the exam. Someone like this is completely lame and I
> would never want them near my network.
>
> I hope I haven't offended anyone.
>
> San Jose in three days.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arnold Ocasio [mailto:aocasio@cisco.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:27 AM
> To: 'Roberto Iannuzzi'; 'Church, Chuck'
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: RE: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
>
>
> Roberto,
>
> You are wrong. If this questions was like the other common questions
posted
> in this web site, you were never would off came out with this question.
Just
> watch yourself on what are you posting on this site.
>
> Regards,
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Roberto Iannuzzi
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 1:16 PM
> To: Church, Chuck
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
>
>
> The url you sent says "document not found". This is a question like any
> other and has nothing to do with the Lab exam.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Church, Chuck" <cchurch@USTA.com>
> To: "'Roberto Iannuzzi'" <twinturbos@sympatico.ca>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:46 AM
> Subject: RE: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
>
>
> > I'm assuming you had this on your lab and are breaking the NDA. Buy
> > since you asked, it's at:
> >
> >
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/atip
> > x_r/ipx/2rdipx2.htm#xtocid31362
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > Roberto Iannuzzi
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:08 AM
> > To: ccielab
> > Subject: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know how you can add this command?:
> >
> > Ipx Network FFFFFFFE
> >
> > Try to put it into your routers and you will see it doesn't work but
> > there is in fact some way to make it work. I just haven't figured that
> > out yet. Any ideas?
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