Re: Immature Remark: RE: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????

From: Brian Hescock (bhescock@xxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Nov 29 2001 - 00:48:14 GMT-3


   
I had thought the list was making progress on how were were treating
each other. Mistakes on both sides, let's move on and get along (or
this will get ugly fast).

Brian

Frank Kim wrote:

>Roberto Iannuzzi et all,
>Reading this thread makes me feel funny. The person that is actually
>breaking the NDA is Chuck Church! He jumped right out and said "I'm
>assuming you had this on your lab and are breaking the NDA...." This is
>like telling the whole world that hey, that question is on the lab.
>
>Mr. Roberto Iannuzzi asked a perfectly valid technical question in this
>ccie-lab email-list. He's studying for the lab just like anyone in
>here. So if we know the answers, help him out and if we don't we keep our
>mouth shut. I think immature remarks such as that came out of Chuck
>Church will eventually lead to NDA related violations.
>
>For example, I posted a question in this group asking for: Has anyone
>ever typed conf t on a router and it worked? And Mr. smartass Chuck
>Church jumped in and said: oh Frank, you're breaking NDA now cuz that's on
>the test.... Let's look back and see who's the trouble maker here? The
>person who's asking the question or Chuck Church?
>
>
>-Frank
>
> On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Astorga,
>Fernando wrote:
>
>>You know this could be just an honest question. There is an IOS version
>>with the "IP Only" feature set where the "ipx network FFFFFFFE" will not
>>work! I ran into this because this is the version we regularly used, and
>>when I started practicing for the CCIE lab, I had the same symptom.
>>
>>Can you all consider this a possible scenario?
>>
>>-Fernando
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim Brown [mailto:Jim.Brown@CaseLogic.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:37 AM
>>To: 'Arnold Ocasio'; 'Church, Chuck'
>>Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>Subject: RE: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
>>
>>
>>Guys,
>>
>>You know this is a violation of the NDA, but yelling about it let's everyone
>>know. I'm not telling anyone what they should or shouldn't do, but couldn't
>>we be doing more harm by bringing it to light in a public group?
>>
>>I observed this same thing a few months ago over someone postings a DLSW
>>question which probably would have gone unnoticed, but the fact that it drew
>>so much attention did more damage. It theoretically gave away three points
>>on the exam for anyone who did a little research.
>>
>>I would suggest bitching at him offline to protect the actual test question
>>or reporting him for the violation.
>>
>>I hope I'm not upsetting either one of you, it is not my intent. I respect
>>both or your opinions and know you are both very helpful in posting
>>responses for the group.
>>
>>I personally have no respect for someone who is to lazy to research a
>>question from an exam they had or a question that was passed onto them from
>>someone who has taken the exam. Someone like this is completely lame and I
>>would never want them near my network.
>>
>>I hope I haven't offended anyone.
>>
>>San Jose in three days.
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Arnold Ocasio [mailto:aocasio@cisco.com]
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:27 AM
>>To: 'Roberto Iannuzzi'; 'Church, Chuck'
>>Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>Subject: RE: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
>>
>>
>>Roberto,
>>
>>You are wrong. If this questions was like the other common questions posted
>>in this web site, you were never would off came out with this question. Just
>>watch yourself on what are you posting on this site.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
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>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
>>Roberto Iannuzzi
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 1:16 PM
>>To: Church, Chuck
>>Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
>>Subject: Re: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
>>
>>
>> The url you sent says "document not found". This is a question like any
>>other and has nothing to do with the Lab exam.
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Church, Chuck" <cchurch@USTA.com>
>>To: "'Roberto Iannuzzi'" <twinturbos@sympatico.ca>
>>Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:46 AM
>>Subject: RE: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
>>
>>
>>>I'm assuming you had this on your lab and are breaking the NDA. Buy
>>>since you asked, it's at:
>>>
>>>
>>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/atip
>>
>>>x_r/ipx/2rdipx2.htm#xtocid31362
>>>
>>>Chuck
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
>>>Roberto Iannuzzi
>>>Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 11:08 AM
>>>To: ccielab
>>>Subject: IPX NEtwork FFFFFFFE????
>>>
>>>
>>> Does anyone know how you can add this command?:
>>>
>>>Ipx Network FFFFFFFE
>>>
>>>Try to put it into your routers and you will see it doesn't work but
>>>there is in fact some way to make it work. I just haven't figured that
>>>out yet. Any ideas?



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