From: Brian (signal@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Nov 08 2001 - 17:36:40 GMT-3
On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, david wrote:
> so if i tell somebody that during my lab
> i had to configure ospf authentication
> that would be a NDA violation?
absolutley...............you definitly do not want to even tell them you
had OSPF. I mean, somethings are obvious, such as that your lab will have
IP on it.............but even then, no need to state the obvious. Its
best just to not go there. Naming even the specific protocols should be a
no no. Example, to say "My lab had OSPF, BGP, Dial Backup, Frame, ATM,
Voice and a Encrypted Tunnel". That would not be right, to name even one
technology, like "My lab had OSPF", would not be right either.
> Cisco says that anything in the 12.1 IOS is
> fair game except for the topics that have been
> excluded.
> So why can't you tell someone that your lab
> included a topic that is in on the DOC CD.
Because there are only X number of labs. Lets just say hypothetically
there are 6 labs (I honestly have no idea how many). Now you know that
one of those has say OSPF. You can start putting peices of the puzzle
together. Now you know one technology you had better
know..............its just wrong.
>
> Configuring OSPF authentication can be pretty
> complicated seen a lot of posts on it.
> telling someone would not alleviate the
> time and effort needed to correctly implement
> this feature in a test environment or live production.
I will have to disagree. A typical CCIE candidate that is prepared for
the lab should know OSPF authentication inside out. Its a pretty limited
scope of networking. You could master OSPF authentication in 1
afternoon....there is really not THAT much to it, and its similar to other
routing protocol authentications (although ospf does have its specifics).
You have to keep it real. This is a very real test. BGP, OSPF, RIP,
EIGRP, FRAME.......these are bread and butter topics. There are alot more
of these types topics too. LAN Mobility.........definitly testable, but
probably not as "core". Core topics are things you must know hands down.
OSPF is a DEFINITE core topic. You must be a master at OSPF.
>
> I beleive the NDA is supposed to be a way to keep
> people from memorizing the exact test without
> knowing or understanding the technologies.
Its not just that, it is also to give anyone an unfair advantage.
> To stop things like the MCSE transcender phenomenon.
> Thus guaranteeing some degree of competency
> in the individuals who attain certification.
>
> I beleive it would be impossible to memorize
> scenarios for the CCIE lab without a good
> understanding of the features, caveats, and
> interworkings of the Cisco IOS.
photographic memory is common enough believe me. And when you spend 8
hours in front of those routers you know that network you are building
intimatlely............you have to, you have to know everything about it,
its pitfalls etc.
>
> which i beleive the certification is trying
> to discern if you have this knowledge or not.
>
> I could be wrong happens lots of times.
Don't test the NDA. Just don't disclose anything having to do with
content on the test. Don't solicate the info either, and you will be
fine. You can make it, and when you do, you will feel all the better that
you played by the rules.
Brian
>
> thanks for the feedback,
> David
>
>
>
> --- "@ Home NetMail" <tveillette@home.com> wrote:
> > Absolutely an NDA issue, anything specific, and
> > configuring a router as a
> > tftp is very specific. As long as you are going
> > after the 15th anything in
> > 12.1 can be tested.
> >
> > As for the IP addressing, it will be crystal clear
> > once the proctor brief's
> > you and
> > you get started. IP addressing will be a non-issue
> > at this level, at least
> > so far, as
> > they stated in the CCIE webcast a while back, there
> > aren't any installed
> > issues...
> > YET.
> >
> > -Todd
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: david david <barbedwireblack@yahoo.com>
> > To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:31 AM
> > Subject: one day format
> >
> >
> > > who has taken the new 1 day format?
> > >
> > > i'm not quite sure what to expect.
> > > they say the ip addressing is already done for
> > you.
> > > does that mean the routers are proconfiged or are
> > > they just on the diagram. not sure.
> > > trying to find out.
> > >
> > > Some people have elluded to obscure topics but
> > > no one will say what kind of topics.
> > > It shouldn't be NDA to say that ( being able
> > > to configure a router as a tftp server was a topic
> > )
> > > Should it?
> > > Do anybody you have any idea what these
> > > obscure topics are.
> > >
> > > thanks in advance,
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > >
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