RE: one day format

From: Larson, Chris (Contractor) (Chris.Larson@xxxxxx)
Date: Thu Nov 08 2001 - 16:20:51 GMT-3


   
BTW,
In dealing with Cisco on this issue I say they. They was actually Mr.
Qureshi who at the time was the CCIE program manager (and may still be). He
helped us spec out equipment for our lab. He also consulted with the 3
CCIE's we had hired to design the scenarios on what they could and could not
reveal. What he said was basically this. You can say "well I had OSPF or
DLSW with a backup peer on my lab", but you cannot say I had to do DLSW+
with a backup peer in this topology. Discussing the technologies they had in
the lab was not an issue. Discussing them in specifics as it applied to the
topology was. The reason behind this was that Cisco has already told
everyone that they have DLSW on the exam in the blueprints (maybe not the
exam YOU get but the lab in general). DLSW in the blueprints includes all
the knobs and switches that go along with DLSW. Same with OSPF.

-----Original Message-----
From: david [mailto:barbedwireblack@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:44 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: one day format

so if i tell somebody that during my lab
i had to configure ospf authentication
that would be a NDA violation?
Cisco says that anything in the 12.1 IOS is
fair game except for the topics that have been
excluded.
So why can't you tell someone that your lab
included a topic that is in on the DOC CD.

Configuring OSPF authentication can be pretty
complicated seen a lot of posts on it.
telling someone would not alleviate the
time and effort needed to correctly implement
this feature in a test environment or live production.

I beleive the NDA is supposed to be a way to keep
people from memorizing the exact test without
knowing or understanding the technologies.
To stop things like the MCSE transcender phenomenon.
Thus guaranteeing some degree of competency
in the individuals who attain certification.

I beleive it would be impossible to memorize
scenarios for the CCIE lab without a good
understanding of the features, caveats, and
interworkings of the Cisco IOS.

which i beleive the certification is trying
to discern if you have this knowledge or not.

I could be wrong happens lots of times.

thanks for the feedback,
David

--- "@ Home NetMail" <tveillette@home.com> wrote:
> Absolutely an NDA issue, anything specific, and
> configuring a router as a
> tftp is very specific. As long as you are going
> after the 15th anything in
> 12.1 can be tested.
>
> As for the IP addressing, it will be crystal clear
> once the proctor brief's
> you and
> you get started. IP addressing will be a non-issue
> at this level, at least
> so far, as
> they stated in the CCIE webcast a while back, there
> aren't any installed
> issues...
> YET.
>
> -Todd
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: david david <barbedwireblack@yahoo.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:31 AM
> Subject: one day format
>
>
> > who has taken the new 1 day format?
> >
> > i'm not quite sure what to expect.
> > they say the ip addressing is already done for
> you.
> > does that mean the routers are proconfiged or are
> > they just on the diagram. not sure.
> > trying to find out.
> >
> > Some people have elluded to obscure topics but
> > no one will say what kind of topics.
> > It shouldn't be NDA to say that ( being able
> > to configure a router as a tftp server was a topic
> )
> > Should it?
> > Do anybody you have any idea what these
> > obscure topics are.
> >
> > thanks in advance,
> > David
> >
> >
> >



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