From: Larson, Chris (Contractor) (Chris.Larson@xxxxxx)
Date: Thu Nov 08 2001 - 16:02:00 GMT-3
Most people don't really care and won't appreciate you revealing what you
had in the exam because they feel it lessens the value and hard work of
others. I agree that there is potential to do that but.......
I don't want to get anything started here, or get flamed all the way to
hell, however..........
If you reveal that in your lab question number X asked you to do such and
such you are violating the confidentiality agreement. The NDA actually
applies only to individuals that are already certitified.
Check it out. Paragraph 8 Section c
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/cert_agreement.pdf
Furthermore the confidentiality agreement states that you will not disclose
questions or answers in the exam or the content of exam materials. ie.
Question number x stated this. Or this was my topology, things of that
nature.
Saying you had to do OSPF with authentication does not break the
confidentiality agreement (as far as my understanding in dealing w/ Cisco).
That does not disclose a question, an answer or the content of exam
materials. Everyone knows you could get OSPF and therefore you need to know
all the knobs for OSPF.
If you said in the exam in section 3 I had to do ospf w/ authentication in
area 0 which was router x, y, and Z then you have a problem.
I have discussed this with Cisco before when assisting with a lab prep
course and this is basically what they had said. They also stated that
anything that is already public knowledge is not breaking the
confidentiality agreement. Therefore since the blueprint for the exam talks
about OSPF, saying you had OSPF is not a violation. Again saying you had
ospf between routers x and z and giving away topology info is!!
That is my understanding. We almost all know what we will get in the exam
(just watching this list is the best indication). It is the combination of
items, knobs, technologies and topologies and how they are mixed that makes
the exam hard.
-----Original Message-----
From: david [mailto:barbedwireblack@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 12:44 PM
To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: one day format
so if i tell somebody that during my lab
i had to configure ospf authentication
that would be a NDA violation?
Cisco says that anything in the 12.1 IOS is
fair game except for the topics that have been
excluded.
So why can't you tell someone that your lab
included a topic that is in on the DOC CD.
Configuring OSPF authentication can be pretty
complicated seen a lot of posts on it.
telling someone would not alleviate the
time and effort needed to correctly implement
this feature in a test environment or live production.
I beleive the NDA is supposed to be a way to keep
people from memorizing the exact test without
knowing or understanding the technologies.
To stop things like the MCSE transcender phenomenon.
Thus guaranteeing some degree of competency
in the individuals who attain certification.
I beleive it would be impossible to memorize
scenarios for the CCIE lab without a good
understanding of the features, caveats, and
interworkings of the Cisco IOS.
which i beleive the certification is trying
to discern if you have this knowledge or not.
I could be wrong happens lots of times.
thanks for the feedback,
David
--- "@ Home NetMail" <tveillette@home.com> wrote:
> Absolutely an NDA issue, anything specific, and
> configuring a router as a
> tftp is very specific. As long as you are going
> after the 15th anything in
> 12.1 can be tested.
>
> As for the IP addressing, it will be crystal clear
> once the proctor brief's
> you and
> you get started. IP addressing will be a non-issue
> at this level, at least
> so far, as
> they stated in the CCIE webcast a while back, there
> aren't any installed
> issues...
> YET.
>
> -Todd
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: david david <barbedwireblack@yahoo.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 10:31 AM
> Subject: one day format
>
>
> > who has taken the new 1 day format?
> >
> > i'm not quite sure what to expect.
> > they say the ip addressing is already done for
> you.
> > does that mean the routers are proconfiged or are
> > they just on the diagram. not sure.
> > trying to find out.
> >
> > Some people have elluded to obscure topics but
> > no one will say what kind of topics.
> > It shouldn't be NDA to say that ( being able
> > to configure a router as a tftp server was a topic
> )
> > Should it?
> > Do anybody you have any idea what these
> > obscure topics are.
> >
> > thanks in advance,
> > David
> >
> >
> >
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