From: Marc Russell (mrussell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Thu Oct 11 2001 - 02:03:49 GMT-3
I totally agree with you, but I have customers and competitors all going
crazy over this 1-day format deal. It doesn't difference. But, perception
rarely reflects reality. The skills, preparation, and knowledge required
will be the same. If I can actually get a customer on the phone and explain
it to them they usually understand that it doesn't matter.
It is just a customer perception problem I need to deal with. However, going
through all of our older labs and updating them will be a lot of work and I
would prefer to do it only once.
Marc Russell
www.ccbootcamp.com
mrussell@ccbootcamp.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Chandradas
To: Sandro Ciffali; Jay Hennigan; Marc Russell
Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com
Sent: 10/10/01 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: 1-day lab format
If you are really prepared for the CCIE lab and if you feel confident ,
how
does it matter to anyone know the extend of the "preconfiguration" of
the 1
day CCIE lab. You prepare for everything. Its a battle .. You prepare
for
the worst..
Jay
CCIE # 8060
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandro Ciffali" <sandyccie@yahoo.com>
To: "Jay Hennigan" <jay@west.net>; "Marc Russell"
<mrussell@ccbootcamp.com>
Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: 1-day lab format
> Marc made it very clear about the NDA, I don't think any of us are
looking
> at the technical content in the lab, We are looking at the lab.
structure.
> The web site not necessarily provides all the information, The
information
I
> would look for is without violating NDA, For example like some one
failed
> the lab and had a chance to verify??, Did the result contaned the
config
> also??? How was the result fomrulated was ot explnatory ??? Were the
guys
> who got result in hand were satisfied?? How did guys manage the timing
in
> the lab.?? Was the time enough etc. etc., There are hundreds of
questions
i
> can think of that some one can answer without violating NDA.
>
> Sandro
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Hennigan" <jay@west.net>
> To: "Marc Russell" <mrussell@ccbootcamp.com>
> Cc: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 5:13 PM
> Subject: Re: 1-day lab format
>
>
> > On Wed, 10 Oct 2001, Marc Russell wrote:
> >
> > > We are looking for feedback from individuals that have actually
taken
> the
> > > new 1-day lab. Please don't break the NDA, we don't want technical
> content.
> > > We just want to know as to what extent the network is
pre-configured.
Is
> it
> > > just basic IP addressing and activated interfaces or more complex
issues
> > > like ISDN setup, frame-relay setup, or basic routing protocols,
etc.
> >
> > How could revealing that information NOT be an NDA violation? What
one
> > sees in the lab should stay in the lab. What Cisco chooses to
reveal
> > about it can be found at Cisco's website. The pre-configuration of
the
> > lab is indeed technical content, is it not?
> >
> > --
> > Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Administration - jay@west.net
> > NetLojix Communications, Inc. - http://www.netlojix.com/
> > WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323
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