From: Mas Kato (loomis_towcar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Oct 01 2001 - 22:46:06 GMT-3
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:) I was wondering if anybody was going to catch that...
The lore as I've heard it, is 1024 was indeed designated to the program itself
and indeed referenced a kilo--a kilobyte. 1025 was given to/taken by the person
that created the program, making Terry Slattery the first person to actually t
ake and pass the exam.
But while my hat is off to Mr. Slattery for being the first person certified by
the CCIE program, a prelude to the CCIE program was the short-lived Top Gun pr
ogram (I would love to have one of -those- bomber jackets)...
Mas
Mas Kato
https://ecardfile.com/id/mkato
>Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 17:28:28 -0700
> Sasa Milic <smilic@EUnet.yu> ccielab@groupstudy.com Re: New R&S Exam TidbitsR
eply-To: Sasa Milic <smilic@EUnet.yu>
>
>Guys,
>
>who told you that kilohertz is 1024 hertz ?!
>
>
>Sasa
>
>Jeff Kesemeyer wrote:
>>
>> Actually it started with #1024.
>> Where kilohertz starts, "it's either going to kill or hurt them ."
>> Started by TAC as a who knows more type test.
>>
>> I believe #1024 is for the lab itself.
>> I know Terry Slattery #1026 was the second.
>> He was in charge of a rewrite of the operating system, from that learned
>> ever command very well.
>> Since he was a consultant he was also the first non-Cisco employee to get
>> it.
>>
>> Jeff Kesemeyer
>> CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNE
>> www.bradshawlabs.com
>> "Your CCIE Rack Rental Source"
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
>> Monty.Majszak@Level3.com
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 6:18 PM
>> To: bruce@williamsnetworking.com; Jim.Brown@CaseLogic.com;
>> jkaberna@netcginc.com; scking@cisco.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>>
>> Bravo, well said guys. It's Cisco's cert and it appears as though they're
>> going to do what they like with it so there's no point in sitting around
>> griping about it. Stupid question, but anyone know who the very first CCIE
>> was and if so if there still around, just curious. The first one would be
>> 1001 right? Didn't they start at that #?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bruce Williams [mailto:bruce@williamsnetworking.com]
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:59 PM
>> To: Jim Brown; 'John Kaberna'; R. Scott King; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>>
>> That is a good point about the early CCIE Labs. If they decided to let us
>> bring notes and stuff into the Lab now, we would all say that it is too
>> easy. However, in reality it was extremely difficult back then and it always
>> will be. I guess we dont really have to worry about the CCIE losing it's
>> value.
>>
>> Bruce
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Brown" <Jim.Brown@CaseLogic.com>
>> To: "'John Kaberna'" <jkaberna@netcginc.com>; "R. Scott King"
>> <scking@cisco.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 5:40 PM
>> Subject: RE: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>>
>> > The test has been in a state of change since its inception. In the days of
>> > yesteryear....
>> >
>> > Candidates received all the material from the get go. You could go home
>> and
>> > research topics on the test and come back then next day and complete.
>> >
>> > Candidates could bring in laptops with them to use for configuration with
>> > any digital material they desired.
>> >
>> > You could haul in any paper configs, books, or notes to take the exam.
>> >
>> > How about the CCIE's who took their exam during the early 90's on 5-6 AGS
>> > routers with 10.0 code? Voice over X, IPSec, and other crazy features?
>> >
>> > The exam is in just another state of flux. Anybody that tells me it is
>> worth
>> > less know than it was a few years back is high. There are more features,
>> > more material to cover, and more hardware.
>> >
>> > One day, two day, who cares. It is your skill and knowledge that will
>> carry
>> > you. I will consider the cert proof of my ability to learn and comprehend
>> > new technologies.
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: John Kaberna [mailto:jkaberna@netcginc.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 3:12 PM
>> > To: R. Scott King; ccielab@groupstudy.com
>> > Subject: Re: New R&S Exam Tidbits
>> >
>> >
>> > Caslow and Remaker have both given their opinions about it. Caslow
>> admitted
>> > that there will be less topics (problem #1). TS is gone and even if they
>> > change IP address or cables big deal (problem #2). People will now be
>> able
>> > to see the entire test without earning each section (problem #3). There
>> > won't be a face-to-face debrief for people to potentially argue some
>> points
>> > (problem #4).
>> >
>> > You can argue that what I'm saying isn't true. At one point people argued
>> > the world was flat too. Everything I just said is fact except for
>> Caslow's
>> > opinion. I think that his opinion on this subject should be weighed very
>> > strongly though.
>> >
>> > John Kaberna
>> > CCIE #7146
>> > NETCG Inc.
>> > Cisco Premier Partner
>> > www.netcginc.com
>> > (415) 750-3800
>> >
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