From: vr4drvr . (adrian36@xxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Aug 06 2001 - 11:41:45 GMT-3
Firstly, you completely missed the point of my email. You probably didn't
even read it, or comprehend it for that matter.
Secondly, why do I continue to get this garbage in my email?
Adrian Smith
Network Engineer
>From: "Roberto Iannuzzi" <twinturbos@sympatico.ca>
>Reply-To: "Roberto Iannuzzi" <twinturbos@sympatico.ca>
>To: "vr4drvr ." <adrian36@hotmail.com>, <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Subject: Re: CCIE Salary v2
>Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 18:25:39 -0400
>
> CCIE's are among those most talented computer people in the world.
>That's
>why they are CCIE's. You can say whatever you want but the fact is CCIE's
>leave most people scratching their heads when it comes to technical
>prowess.
>Companies drool at the thought of having a CCIE for whatever reason and
>Wannabee CCIE's belittle the credibility of a CCIE because they could NEVER
>be one.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
>From: "vr4drvr ." <adrian36@hotmail.com>
>To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 10:47 AM
>Subject: Re: CCIE Salary v2
>
>
> > I don't think everyone on this list quite understands what the CCIE
> > represents to the "corporation". I will admit that it is a great way
>for
> > technical people to increase their skill sets in order to help them in
>their
> > profession. But the main reason companies were offering so much for
>them
> > was not necessarily due to the technical prowess that is "supposed" to
>come
> > with a CCIE. You see, having a number of CCIE's on staff means the
>company
> > can get deals with Cisco. It is a business reason more than a personnel
> > reason, as is ALWAYS the case with businesses. It is all about the
>bottom
> > line! If IT is slowing then so is the need for the deals (CCIE's), but
>not
> > for skilled individuals. I know of CCIE's that just couldn't survive in
>the
> > real IT world, but not all. I am not detracting from the CCIE, I just
>want
> > to clarify.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Roger McNeace" <rmcneace@lucent.com>
> > >Reply-To: "Roger McNeace" <rmcneace@lucent.com>
> > >To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > >Subject: CCIE Salary
> > >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 21:48:43 -0400
> > >
> > >I apologize if this distracts form the true purpose of this forum, but
>I
> > >believe this is an important issue. I work for a large Telecom company
>that
> > >is laying off a lot of engineers, so I have been forced to look at the
>job
> > >market for opportunities. I have seen many job postings that say "CCIE
> > >required" with a salary range of $70-$90k. I am doing better than that
> > >without a CCIE. My questions is this a market phenomenon or have the
> > >recruiters in lost their mind? I hope this is not a trend that CCIE is
> > >losing its value in the market place. I am not pursuing CCIE status
>soley
> > >for the money, but sure as hell dont want to go backwards.
> > >**Please read:http://www.groupstudy.com/list/posting.html
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