From: Ron.Fuller@xxxxxx
Date: Sat Aug 04 2001 - 10:35:22 GMT-3
No points for partial configs. Either you meet EVERY goal of each task,
or you get no credit. It's those small details that make the lab so hard.
Ron Fuller, CCIE #5851, CCDP, CCNP-ATM, CSS Level 1, CCNP-Voice, MCNE
3X Corporation
rfuller@3x.com
Ademola Osindero <ademolaosindero@yahoo.com>
Sent by: nobody@groupstudy.com
08/04/01 04:46 AM
Please respond to Ademola Osindero
To: "R. Scott King" <scking@cisco.com>, ccielab@groupstudy.com
cc:
Subject: RE: CCIE Experience from the depths of below...
I tried arguing in the lab while marking with him but
I just decided to ignore things. Painfully I got back
to Nigeria and checked my configs and found out most
of them he gave me 0 marks for partial configs were
alright. And nobody has answered the question, is it
true that there are no marks for partial configs?
And the second fact is that he wasn't my proctor on
day 1. My proctor's attituide on day 1 was not close
to his.
Anyway, Cisco, take note or don't take note. I am
daring the next proctor in any lab I am going. And I
still maintain my point there was racism in there.
--- "R. Scott King" <scking@cisco.com> wrote:
> Alan is Black and Howard is white, but it really
> doesn't matter because
> they're both fair and honestly care about whether
> you pass or not. I will
> be taking my next attempt in RTP because my first
> attempt was a good
> experience (even though I flunked).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody@groupstudy.com
> [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> Ron.Fuller@3x.com
> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 11:21 AM
> Cc: ccielab@groupstudy.com; nobody@groupstudy.com;
> Ken Snyder
> Subject: Re: CCIE Experience from the depths of
> below...
>
>
> Don't know if it really matters to you but Alan in
> RTP is black. It may
> be an issue in the Johannesburg lab more so than it
> is here in the US.
>
> Ron Fuller, CCIE #5851, CCDP, CCNP-ATM, CSS Level 1,
> CCNP-Voice, MCNE
> 3X Corporation
> rfuller@3x.com
>
>
>
>
> Ademola Osindero <ademolaosindero@yahoo.com>
> Sent by: nobody@groupstudy.com
> 08/03/2001 01:09 PM
> Please respond to Ademola Osindero
>
>
> To: Ken Snyder <phizzog@home.com>,
> ccielab@groupstudy.com
> cc:
> Subject: Re: CCIE Experience from the
> depths of below...
>
>
> To everyone as well,
>
> I took my lab on july 23/24 in johannesburg, I swear
> I
> will never go back. I had been so stressed before
> travelling down to there because of my travelling
> arrangements. I managed to survive day1 and started
> my
> day 2. I had hoped to cover everything on day 2
> which
> I tried except for very few things. While
> configuring,
> the UPS on the frame relay switch kept going off and
> on for almost 1hours 10minute but I cared less as I
> kept configuring. Meanwhile, my other remaining lab
> mate kept calling the proctol's attention. Well at
> break time, the proctol told me to leave while he
> gave
> my other lab mate 15 minutes extra. Yet we both had
> the same problems.
>
> While marking, I discovered most of my configs were
> missing...who should I ask? My proctol simply told
> me
> no marks for partial configs. I have written Cisco
> to
> know if this is true.
>
> Well, my other lab mate made it through, how? only
> heaven can explain. My claim is simple. I am Black
> and
> the proctol is purely white and so is my other lab
> mate. I took my exam in that aparthied country. I AM
> SCREAMING RACISM. THE PROCTOL NEVER BELIEVED HE
> COULD
> SEE A BLACK IN THAT LAB. He told me most of my
> configs
> were not complete yet I got back to Nigeria and
> confirmed they were meant to be working well. He
> asked all sorts of questions he shouldn't have asked
> a
> CCNP yet I answerd perfectly well. I asked him the
> same question there that how does he expect these
> things to be configured, but he simply said this is
> your first time. The proctol on day one was not like
> this at all.
>
> If the CCIE lab contnues this way then it's a ruse.
> It
> is painful to be failed when you know what you are
> doing.
>
> Sorry Ken, hope they can hear us.
>
>
> --- Ken Snyder <phizzog@home.com> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> >
> >
> > I feel entitled to let everyone know what
> > happened in my 4 days of
> > misery last week in Halifax. I started Day 1 last
> > Tuesday. It was a fair
> > test with many great tricks but I was very
> confident
> > moving into Day2.
> > Well I received my Day 2 lab and to my delight, I
> > had covered many of
> > the topics in great detail. So I started flying
> > through Day 2. Well
> > about an hour into my test, the proctor came up
> and
> > took the lab from my
> > desk, he gave me another lab and told me to start
> > over. I guess the
> > other fellow who made it to day 2 received the lab
> > that was designed for
> > my rack and I had his lab. The proctor mistakenly
> > gave us the wrong
> > exams. The other guy couldn't understand why his
> ATM
> > wouldn't come up
> > but my lab fit on my topology so I didn't notice
> it.
> > So I get the new
> > lab and begin to start over. Now many of the
> things
> > I had from the
> > previous lab over lapped and I spent an hour
> fixing
> > things. Than I got
> > to a section that required a configuration that I
> > did have an option for
> > on my router so after researching it in the
> > documentation, I found that
> > I had in fact the wrong IOS on my router. I had to
> > hunt down the
> > proctor. He knew right away that it was the wrong
> > IOS so he gave me a
> > Flash card and told me to fix it! I was fit to be
> > tied at that point. So
> > all in all I pled my case and the proctor met
> talked
> > with this
> > supervisor Lornne Braddock (who is very pleasant
> to
> > deal with in these
> > situations). They gave me three options: take the
> > test again at a later
> > date, take the test again the next day, or take
> the
> > 1 day exam the next
> > day. The problem I faced is that they would only
> > waive the test fee. The
> > next trip would be out of my own pocket so I had
> to
> > take a chance and
> > start over the next day. I was beyond exhausted
> and
> > tired on the morning
> > of Day 3. I started Day 1 (I mean 3) and it was a
> > completely new lab
> > with similar topics but new tricks (it was fair).
> I
> > finished early as
> > usual and checked all my config's. I was very
> > confident again moving
> > into Day 2 but very tired. I started Day 2. It was
> > tough!! Many new
> > topics and tricks that I've never seen. I used my
> > usual strategy: kick
> > out big point topics I'm familiar with, than
> gimmie
> > points and then
> > research problems. Well I found a problem with one
> > router that I just
> > couldn't figure out. I tried all different kinds
> of
> > solutions. It was
> > close to my problem from my other day 2 that had
> the
> > wrong IOS so I
> > started to think that I had the wrong code again.
> > Well once I was
> > convinced it was a code issue, the proctor came in
> > to send me to lunch.
> > I questioned him about it and he told me it was a
> > common problem. I
> > immediate assumed he was referring that it was a
> > common problem with the
> > wrong IOS like my previous day 2. So later when I
> > missed by a few
> > points, I pled my case that I felt there was a
> > problem with the code on
> > the router and it cost me an hour in the lab which
>
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