From: Martin, Chris (chris@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Tue Jun 05 2001 - 12:11:16 GMT-3
Paul:
Can we kill this thread please? It seems removing one person from
posting a ad has caused the sheep to skatter towards the dead carcuss and
complain about it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Casassa, Nathan" <ncasassa@gnilink.net>
To: "'P. Gregory'" <pgregory@ee.net>; "Brent D. Stewart, CCSI"
<brent.stewart@globalknowledge.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 7:47 AM
Subject: OT: Why we have jobs (was 3900 Simulator)
> As you all should know, nobody here would be studying for CCIE or even
have
> jobs in the tech field if so much of the Internet traffic was not porn,
ads,
> junk mail etc, online gambling, E-Stock trading, games, chat rooms etc.
You
> think if the Internet was still a government and college experiment that
> CCIE's would be in demand? It is marketing that drives the Internet and
> keeps us with jobs. Marketing is everywhere and it drives the economy.
How
> many people here spend hours of your time complaining and sending mail
about
> the Junk Mail you get in your postal box? How many people sit here are
> active in reducing billboards that ruin scenic places - yet everyone flips
> out because they have to hit the friggen delete key on the keyboard! It is
> the bandwidth required to get your junk email to your box that makes you
> have a JOB!!!! I guarantee a majority of everyone here works for a company
> that does what a company does (makes money by selling stuff). Go and tell
> your boss you don't think he should advertise and see how long your in
> demand then...
>
> Nate
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: P. Gregory [mailto:pgregory@ee.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 6:56 AM
> To: Brent D. Stewart, CCSI; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Cisco 3920 simulator
>
>
> My point is that if companies are paying for advertising emails there
should
> be a notification that this email " Is a paid advertisment of the Joe
> Company" and to whom the proceeds go. That way there are no UCC violation
> questions if it pertains to email advertising. Again RIP and not the
> protocol. Free speak and the spirit of the Internet will prevail. (i hope)
>
> S3attl3_sl3w
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brent D. Stewart, CCSI" <brent.stewart@globalknowledge.com>
> To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:41 AM
> Subject: RE: Cisco 3920 simulator
>
>
> > What would be polite is to run "for profit" stuff by Paul first and post
> > only with his pre-approval. After all, Paul built it and maintains it.
> > Since none of us contribute$ and all of us benefit from his altruism, we
> > should all respect his vision of what Groupstudy is.
> >
> > We want two contradictory things: a low signal:noise ratio on the list
> and
> > the opportunity to hear about neat products that fit a niche within the
> > community. A very fair solution, in my opinion, is for Paul to turn
this
> > into a way to compensate himself for his time and allow others to
> advertise.
> > You know that message at the bottom of all our e-mails about "to
> > unsubscribe" and "don't post lab swaps here"? Since we all ignore them
> (I'm
> > basing this on the evidence), why don't we encourage Paul to sell ads
> there.
> > He finally benefits from all his hard work, vision maintained, and we
are
> > free to dilute the signal:noise ratio with our usual silliness.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Brent
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
> > Gabriel.Neagoe@snt.ro
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:12 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: RE: Cisco 3920 simulator
> >
> >
> > I subscribe to this idea
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: garry baker [SMTP:fallow46@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 8:18 AM
> > > To: Kathleen Burns; pborghese@groupstudy.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > Cc: DZaitsev@thrupoint.net
> > > Subject: RE: Cisco 3920 simulator
> > >
> > > Paul,
> > >
> > > why don't you set up a seperate group just like the
> > > lab swap one, that way if people have lab gear or
> > > whatever to sell you can do it via that group and get
> > > that type of stuff off this list?
> > >
> > >
> > > Garry
> > > --- Kathleen Burns <beta311@home.com> wrote:
> > > > I am new to this group, been around about 3 weeks.
> > > > So far I have been
> > > > impressed by the sharing and caring of this forum.
> > > > But what Paul did was
> > > > uncalled for. First off, Dmitry was selling his
> > > > crap on this site but I
> > > > believe a written warning would have been much more
> > > > appropriate. I have one
> > > > piece of equipment to get and guess what it is a
> > > > 3920. Last week ccbootcamp
> > > > sold 3 of them (Olicoms) for $2099 a piece on ebay.
> > > > That is a lot of money
> > > > to lose if some dude who wrote a piece of software
> > > > and wants to sell it
> > > > cheaper. I like NLI bootcamp labs and what Marc has
> > > > done for the CCIE
> > > > community is great. But I am not amused with the
> > > > arrogance that Paul has
> > > > ushered in with his double standards. I do believe
> > > > this forum will be of
> > > > great help to me and my studies but I can only hope
> > > > it gets better than
> > > > this.
> > > >
> > > > Thank,
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > > By the way I prefer WordPad, is that going to be
> > > > problem???? hehehe
> > > > **Please
> > > > read:http://www.groupstudy.com/list/posting.html
> > > >
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