From: John Kaberna (jkaberna@xxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Sun May 20 2001 - 01:18:26 GMT-3
If you don't want to listen to me and the couple others that have responded
good luck getting out of Day 1. But, you are certainly no one to question
my knowledge and my qualification. So back up a step. Go do your reading.
Then come back and give me my apology.
If you actually bother to read Lab 1 you will see that Step 11 says solve
the problem with routing not layer 3 to layer 2 mapping. Hence the policy
routing. You clearly don't have lab 1 and the answers in front of you nor
do you understand fundamental concepts of OSPF and frame relay.
John Kaberna
CCIE #7146
NETCG Inc
www.netcginc.com
(415) 750-3800
Fax: 750-3900
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roman Rodichev" <rodic000@hotmail.com>
To: <jkaberna@netcginc.com>; <Martin.Duggan@ntl.com>;
<ccielab@groupstudy.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: Redistributing OSPF into IGRP - Policy routing
> John, you are ccie, aren't you? No offense, but this is like the basics of
> OSPF.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/3.html#11.2.1
>
> "OSPF point-to-multipoint works by exchanging additional link-state
updates
> that contain a number of information elements that describe connectivity
to
> the neighboring routers."
>
> or here is the quote from the Q&A forum on TAC:
>
> "Configuring nonbroadcast multiaccess networks as either broadcast
> or non-broadcast assumes that there are virtual circuits from every
> router to every router or fully meshed network. This is not true for
> cases where you have cost constraints or when you have only a partially
> meshed network. In these cases, you can configure the OSPF network type
> as a point-to-multipoint network. Routing between two routers that are
> not directly connected will occur through a router that has virtual
> circuits to the routers that are not directly connected."
>
> Try using "ip ospf network broadcast" and then "ip ospf network
> point-to-multipoint", and notice the /32 routes. This command is not just
> about timers. Can some one back me up?
>
>
> >From: "John Kaberna" <jkaberna@netcginc.com>
> >To: "Roman Rodichev" <rodic000@hotmail.com>, <Martin.Duggan@ntl.com>,
> ><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Subject: Re: Redistributing OSPF into IGRP - Policy routing
> >Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:48:59 -0700
> >
> >Sorry Roman but your wrong. The ip ospf network command only sets the
> >timers. Go look it up.
> >
> >John Kaberna
> >CCIE #7146
> >NETCG Inc
> >www.netcginc.com
> >(415) 750-3800
> >Fax: 750-3900
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Roman Rodichev" <rodic000@hotmail.com>
> >To: <jkaberna@netcginc.com>; <Martin.Duggan@ntl.com>;
> ><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 8:38 PM
> >Subject: Re: Redistributing OSPF into IGRP - Policy routing
> >
> >
> > > I think Step 8 (cant use ip ospf network) is solved by policy routing.
> > >
> > > Frame maps are not needed for the routing to work, "ip ospf network"
> >would
> > > do frame map's job.
> > >
> > > >From: "John Kaberna" <jkaberna@netcginc.com>
> > > >To: "Roman Rodichev" <rodic000@hotmail.com>, <Martin.Duggan@ntl.com>,
> > > ><ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: Redistributing OSPF into IGRP - Policy routing
> > > >Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:27:46 -0700
> > > >
> > > >I think you are getting step 8 and step 11 confused.
> > > >
> > > >Step 8 (cant used ip ospf network) - solved by used ip ospf
> >hello-interval
> > > >
> > > >Step 11 (cant use 2 frame maps on the spokes) - solved by using
policy
> > > >routing
> > > >
> > > >John Kaberna
> > > >CCIE #7146
> > > >NETCG Inc
> > > >www.netcginc.com
> > > >(415) 750-3800
> > > >Fax: 750-3900
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Roman Rodichev" <rodic000@hotmail.com>
> > > >To: <Martin.Duggan@ntl.com>; <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > >Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 7:51 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: Redistributing OSPF into IGRP - Policy routing
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > People, am I being stupid? I will take a look at that lab on
> >Tuesday.
> >I
> > > > > clearly remember that they explicitly said not to use "ip ospf
> >network"
> > > > > statement.
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, you guys are right that we weren't allowed to use "frame map"
> > > > > statements on the spokes. And it's ok. That was not the point of
the
> > > >lab.
> > > > > The point was that we couldn't use "ip ospf network multipoint"
> > > >statement,
> > > > > which would fix the entire scenario by creating /32 routes on the
> >spokes
> > > > > pointing to the hub. So since we couldn't do it, we had to create
> >policy
> > > > > routing that would send traffic to the hub manually.
> > > > >
> > > > > Am I right?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: Martin Duggan <Martin.Duggan@ntl.com>
> > > > > >Reply-To: Martin Duggan <Martin.Duggan@ntl.com>
> > > > > >To: ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > >Subject: RE: Redistributing OSPF into IGRP - Policy routing
> > > > > >Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 21:40:14 +0100
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hi Roman
> > > > > >
> > > > > >My understanding of Lab1 was that you policy route as you are not
> > > >permitted
> > > > > >to add multiple frame relay map statements from spoke to spoke,
you
> > > >policy
> > > > > >route so that the next hop is actually your hub ( when attempting
> >to
> > > >reach
> > > > > >a
> > > > > >spoke from a spoke )the hub is obviously aware of all spokes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Martin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > >From: Roman Rodichev [mailto:rodic000@hotmail.com]
> > > > > >Sent: 19 May 2001 21:13
> > > > > >To: kenyeo@email.com; ccielab@groupstudy.com
> > > > > >Subject: Re: Redistributing OSPF into IGRP - Policy routing
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Ken, policy routing should be used when you can't achieve certain
> >task
> > > >with
> > > > > >the routing protocol you have or WAN technology you are using.
And
> >of
> > > > > >course, when you are asked to use it. Let's say you have
multipoint
> > > > > >frame-relay, and you can't use "ip ospf network" statement. The
> >only
> > > >way
> > > >to
> > > > > >achieve routing between FR spokes is to use policy-routing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >by the way, this is from Lab1 of ccbootcamp, so I'm not violating
> >NDA.
> > > >NDA
> > > > > >is f...ing scary nowadays
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >From: "Ken Yeo" <kenyeo@email.com>
> > > > > > >Reply-To: "Ken Yeo" <kenyeo@email.com>
> > > > > > >To: <ccielab@groupstudy.com>
> > > > > > >Subject: Redistributing OSPF into IGRP - Policy routing
> > > > > > >Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 12:59:50 -0500
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Is policy routing allowed for the lab?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >The reason I ask is because policy routing essentially bypass
> >routing
> > > > > >table
> > > > > > >and it behave like static route, only it depends on source
> >address
> > > > > >instead
> > > > > > >of destination address.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Policy routing can solve a lot of problem, especially
> >redistributing
> > > >VLSM
> > > > > > >OSPF routes into IGRP with same major network.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >What is your thought?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Ken Yeo
> > > > > > >**Please read:http://www.groupstudy.com/list/posting.html
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