From: Jim Graves (jtg@xxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon May 14 2001 - 17:04:25 GMT-3
[Can we mark these all with OT now?]
I think it's important to note that the post that started all this wasn't
just an obscure question. The title was, "give the CCIE lab question
answer", and it started with, "I got some question from ccie LAB." That
sounds like someone posting actual questions from an actual test.
It's obvious the poster's not a native English speaker, and he may not have
meant to imply that the questions were from a CCIE lab test. But now we're
trying to guess intents and translations, and frankly that's more a matter
for the CCIE PTB if they want to pursue it.
You ask what the reaction should be. No matter what the question, we
should be thinking in the back of our heads, "Am I violating NDA by
answering?" For 99% of the messages in this list, the answer is no. Most
messages deal with configurations that may or may not be on the test. But
this one said -- or at least, heavily implied -- that these were actual
CCIE test questions. At that point, I think it's reasonable (a) not to
answer, and (b) to point out the NDA.
At 12:15 PM 5/14/2001 -0700, Jay Hennigan wrote:
>On Mon, 14 May 2001, Roderick Ta wrote:
>
> > Sometimes, a single question that actual exists in the real exam lab
> > can be considered incidental. But if you pose a number of questions,
> > and the people from CCIE program monitoring this list considered they
> > were from the real lab questions, then you would be considered violate
> > NDA, and be punished.
> >
> > This list is monitored. There was a clarification recently posted by
> > Enid Sorkowitz, Manager, Customer Service, CCIE Program.
> >
> > Roderick Ta
>
>OK, but consider what the proper reaction of those on the list should be.
>
>Suppose I'm a CCIE candidate, and I know to study the basic core stuff.
>
>Person A on the list posts an obscure question relating to a specific
>scenario and gets a response helping to explain, which generates a thread
>of hints and pitfalls.
>
>Person B posts an obscure question relating to a diffferent specific
>scenario, and half a dozen people who have been to the lab scream "NDA".
>
>Which of the two hypotheticals is more likely to be on the real lab?
>
>And who is is that *really* violated NDA by giving away the obvious clue
>that a specific scenario was a test question? The one who asked (who may
>never have seen an actual lab) or the half dozen who have indeed seen the
>lab and flamed by pointing out "NDA"?
>
>Wouldn't it be better for those "in the know" to simply ignore the obvious
>test question, or to answer it generically the same as any other hypothetical?
>
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