From: Peter Whittle (peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
Date: Mon Apr 09 2001 - 17:30:10 GMT-3
Try Ackermann's German site.
It is referenced off their UK site and is available in German and
English to locate a US distributor.
The Euracom does ETSI Q931.
SPIDs are a feature of some US switches.
Configure your routers etc for ISDN SWITCH-TYPE BASIC-NET3 or Q931 or
ETSI.
If you want to operate in multipoint mode then you will have to program
'ANSWER' Telephone numbers (extensions)
eg In multipoint mode we have multiple numbers (4 assigned to a single S
Bus say S2 and 2 routers connected in parallel on the S Bus)
Router1
ANSWER1 21
ANSWER2 22
Router2
ANSWER1 23
ANSWER2 24
Then set router1 dialer map to dial 23 or 24
The call will go out of router2 on S bus S2 on 1 B channel to the PABX
be switched to the other B channel on the same S bus and be answered by
Router1.
There are a few caveats: 1) You must use BRi-S/T interfaces (not U)
2) The device must have a full implementation of S/T bus functionality
including support for multipoint. 3) Remember you only have 2 B channels
on an S bus so no multilink between 2 devices on the same S bus. (This
is not an issue if you put the 2 routers on separate S buses.)
As the Euracom is intended as a baby PABX for small offices the dial-
plan is rather limited.
You do not require an external Telco ISDN line unless you wish to make
external calls you can perform all your labs locally. (There may be an
issue with approvals outside of the EC for connection to the Telco
network)
Peter
In message <NEBBJOIEILPOOLHLDPJLEEDLCBAA.pheller@genuity.net>, Phillip
Heller <pheller@genuity.net> writes
>Is there any source for Euracom PABX's in the US that anyone's aware of?
>Also, how are spid's and ldn's assigned to devices on the internal BRI
>connections? Must the PABX be connected to the PSTN?
>
>I thought about trying a European ISDN PABX awhile ago, but could never find
>answers for these questions.
>
>Regards,
>
>--phil
>
>| -----Original Message-----
>| From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
>| Peter Whittle
>| Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:46 PM
>| To: Tariq Sharif
>| Cc: Ccielab@groupstudy.com
>| Subject: Re: T1/E1 PRI testing
>|
>|
>| Hi Tariq,
>|
>| I am in the process of setting up a Euracom 262 in my home lab. (This
>| has 4 Bri ports, 1 external network facing ie to CO) the other 3 can be
>| configured either for internal or external use. In our case internal
>| use. It also has 6 POTS ports - in case you want to use stone-age
>| modems!
>|
>| The Euracom supports multipoint on the S bus so although you only get 2
>| B channels per S bus you can plug up to 4 S bus devices (routers, TAs,
>| phones) into each port and make calls between any two at a time or a 2 B
>| call from any one of them to a device on another S bus.
>|
>| -----------
>| ! !------S1 to Telco CO
>| S2-----! Euracom !
>| ! PABX !
>| S3-----! !
>| ! !
>| S4-----! !
>| !---------!
>|
>| [ Each S bus S2, S3, S4 will support up to 4 S bus devices, or up to 8 S
>| bus devices with 100R Bus terminating resistors ie a total of 12 or 24
>| devices. However, remember that you only have a total of 6 B channels
>| and a maximum of 2 B channels on each S bus. The connections are
>| terminal screw blocks so you need some RJ45 sockets or flying leads]
>|
>|
>| If you want to do multilink -PPP that is a feature of the end device not
>| the ISDN switch. As far as the ISDN switch is concerned a multilink
>| call is 2 separate independent calls that happen to originate on a
>| single device and terminate on a different single device.
>|
>| I am intending to connect up a 2503, 2620 with WIC-BRi, 4500M with NP-
>| 4B.
>|
>| The E1 to Bri device that I mentioned is an Adept-Q, it has 4 x Bri
>| ports and a single E1 port. I do not have one of these as yet I am
>| saving up! (They are about #1500, not to mention the cost of an NP-1CE1
>| or NM-1CE1 module). According to the spec sheet it will act as a mini 8
>| channel digital PABX.
>|
>| URL http://www.comprador.co.uk/adept-q.htm
>|
>| BTW which stream are you taking? I am working on the ISP Dial.
>|
>| Where abouts are you located?
>|
>| I am based in the Midlands
>|
>|
>| Peter
>|
>| In message <NCBBJKIDLHALHOMPKNLNOEKECGAA.tariq_sharif@btinternet.com>,
>| Tariq Sharif <tariq_sharif@btinternet.com> writes
>| >Hi Peter
>| >
>| >Thanks for the info. Have you use any Eurocom model PBXs? Can
>| they do PPP
>| >mutilink, call back etc?
>| >
>| >Many thanks & regards.
>| >
>| >Tariq Sharif
>| >
>| >
>| >-----Original Message-----
>| >From: Peter Whittle [mailto:peter@whittle-systems.demon.co.uk]
>| >Sent: 08 April 2001 21:58
>| >To: Scott Morris
>| >Cc: 'Tariq Sharif'; 'Ccielab@Groupstudy. Com'
>| >Subject: Re: T1/E1 PRI testing
>| >
>| >
>| >Tariq,
>| >
>| >In principle no, you can't.
>| >
>| >However, if you are only interested in bearer capability voice then you
>| >have two choices: you need an NM-HDV + and NM-2V with VIC-BRI then you
>| >can set up a 3600 as a voice PABX and make calls between Bri and Pri
>| >devices. The Bri has to be a CO as the VIC-Bri (as far as I am aware)
>| >is only available in TE form. The Pri on the NM-HDV can be configured
>| >as either TE or as CO. Alternatively, you can do a similar thing with a
>| >MC3810 with BVM (Basic Rate Voice Module) and an E1 Multiflex trunk
>| >module.
>| >
>| >But by the time you have shelled out for that little lot you could have
>| >bought either a baby ISDN PABX, a simulator or even a protocol
>| >convertor.
>| >
>| >If you are looking at European standards you can get a 3 port Bri ISDN
>| >PABX for about 750
>| >
>| >Look at the Eurocom 182 or 262 Bri PABX www.ackermann.co.uk
>| >
>| >or you can get an E1 to Bri protocol convertor for about 1500. They
>| >offer a single E1 to 4 x Bri.
>| >
>| >
>| >In message <001301c0bf72$5f906750$11259ed0@BLACKHAWK>, Scott Morris
>| ><smorris@mentortech.com> writes
>| >>Completely different framing techniques. So I'd say whoever
>| told you this
>| >>is incorrect... There are functions that an ISDN switch
>| performs that a
>| >PRI
>| >>CPE device isn't capable of.
>| >>
>| >>While it would be quite cool if this functionality WAS
>| possible, I can't
>| >>think of any good technical reason that it is...
>| >>
>| >>Scott
>| >>
>| >>-----Original Message-----
>| >>From: nobody@groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody@groupstudy.com]On Behalf Of
>| >>Tariq Sharif
>| >>Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2001 8:30 AM
>| >>To: Ccielab@Groupstudy. Com
>| >>Subject: T1/E1 PRI testing
>| >>
>| >>
>| >>Someone said with some IOS ver you can use T1/E1 PRI ISDN card
>| to test ISDN
>| >>with BRI cards. So the PRI will act as ISDN switch for BRI
>| routers to dial
>| >>in & out of or PRI can be dialed from BRI. Has anyone
>| heard/tested this?
>| >>
>| >>Many thanks & regards.
>| >>
>| >>Tariq Sharif
>| >>
>| >>[GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type
>| application/ms-tnef which had
>| >>a name of winmail.dat]
>| >--
>| >Peter Whittle
>| >
>|
>| --
>| Peter Whittle
>|
>
-- Peter Whittle
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